[18:57:52] I've updated the docs at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Architecture#Debugging (and its two sub sections) to reflect current best practices, and the fact that debug=true now default to version 2 and that debug=1 has been removed. [18:57:57] JustHannah: ^ have a look :) [19:34:41] Okay! Thank you! [22:47:28] > < Krinkle> Once mwdebug has a viable k8s version, and beta uses containers, -- Nobody should hold their breath for the containers in deployment-prep future. I would argue that we must do it, but at this time I have no idea who will do the work. [22:54:33] > something in the hooks is doing something that previously didn't matter but now matters -- The migration to Puppet 7 is probably the new thing that caught the docs and people off guard. The Puppet 7 `puppetserver` process has to be restarted to see changes in the manifests on disk. The post-checkout, post-commit, and post-merge hooks do that via `sudo /usr/local/bin/puppetserver-deploy-code` [22:55:28] eh, "restarted" isn't quite right, but it has to have a cache flushed [23:09:15] bd808: ack. I'm neutral on if/when beta gets containers. I'm only observing that the duplication in apache templates is (afaik) only because of these two things using it still, in theory when that isn't the case, the duplication will presumably cease.