[18:30:38] <Amir1>	 Krinkle: you might know this from top of your head. I thought we had a memcached on top of parser cache. When I did a verbose, I see one https://logstash.wikimedia.org/app/discover#/doc/logstash-*/logstash-mediawiki-1-7.0.0-1-2026.08.26?id=2DpSPKABMPCwDrNAmjK3 but there is nothing in graphshttps://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/lqE4lcGWz/wanobjectcache-key-group?orgId=1&from=now-6h&to=now&timezone=utc&var-keygroup=parsoid_pcache (try any 
[18:30:38] <Amir1>	 combination of parsoid). They keys are there, you can search for them but the hits all are zero
[18:31:00] <Krinkle>	 Krinkle: wancache != memc, check the bagostuff by keygroup graph
[18:31:00] <Amir1>	 https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/lqE4lcGWz/wanobjectcache-key-group?orgId=1&from=now-6h&to=now&timezone=utc&var-keygroup=parsoid_pcache  correct link
[18:31:11] <Krinkle>	 mutliwrite usees the mem bag directly
[18:31:24] <Amir1>	 ah okay
[18:34:34] <Amir1>	 hmm, I'm seeing it but it could be also SqlBagOStuff also emitting it too
[18:34:40] <Amir1>	 > This represents MainStash and ParserCache (backed by SqlBagOStuff), and SessionStore (backend by Kask/RESTBagOStuff). For Memcached, see higher-level WANObjectCache metrics instead. See also BagOStuff README. See here for old Graphite data.
[18:34:44] <Amir1>	 https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/4plhqSPGk/bagostuff-stats-by-key-group?from=2026-08-25T14:00:23.745Z&to=2026-08-26T12:25:02.862Z&timezone=utc&var-kClass=postproc_parsoid_pcache
[18:43:32] <Krinkle>	 Yeah, memc doesn't ahve those metrics
[18:43:37] <Krinkle>	 memcbag
[18:51:50] <Amir1>	 Chris did a tcpdump, we made sure it's working. Just to rule it out