[10:35:01] <gryffus>	 Hello, doo you have any recommendations for WYSIWYG editor? I have seen that the WYSIWYG extension is not compatible with current MediaWiki. Which one is recommended for production instead? I am using v 1.36.
[10:35:52] <lens0021>	 !e VisualEditor
[10:35:52] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor
[10:36:12] <lens0021>	 is a WYSIWYG editor
[10:36:14] <gryffus>	 lens0021: is it better / more stable than TinyMCE?
[10:36:49] <lens0021>	 VisualEditor is deployed by Wikipedia, you can try in any Wikipedia
[10:37:11] <gryffus>	 lens0021: nice, that is my choice, then. Thanks!
[10:38:24] <gryffus>	 I can also see "WikiEditor" installed by default. Can you please tell me the difference?
[10:38:58] <lens0021>	 gryffus: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editor can helps with screenshots
[10:55:00] <gryffus>	 I turned on VisualEditor and it looks nice :)
[13:27:41] <legoktm>	 Universal_Omega: not sure why, but the Matrix bridge dropped your message. I'll try to look at it again tonight
[15:30:47] <lens0021>	 Thank you: After upgrading my team's wiki to MediaWiki 1.36, the wiki started to display few non-translated messages as the wiki is not English and the translation was not finished. I translated immediately the messages in translatewiki.net and cronjob for an L10n update run on my team's server. The messages now displayed in the translated language. I love Translatewiki.net and L10n update. Thanks to all developers and all 
[15:30:47] <lens0021>	 operators!
[15:39:14] <Reedy>	 lens0021: FWIW, we're hoping to start backporting l10nupdates again soon
[15:39:23] <Reedy>	 So point releases in future will include them too
[15:45:23] <lens0021>	 Reedy: I heard that, but does it mean unless 1.36.1 is released, the users of the third-party wikis must see the untranslated messages if the wiki has not set L10n update? I think the backporting and L10n update are both important.
[15:45:45] <Reedy>	 Not everyone will want to run localisationupdate
[15:45:50] <Reedy>	 So this gives a solution for those people
[15:46:30] <lens0021>	 it is true, I agree
[15:51:02] <lens0021>	 I was just afraid that people could think localisationupdate is not used by anyone, it is why I expressed my gratitude.
[15:51:37] <Reedy>	 I think we know it is... Even if the WMF hasn't been using it for a few years :)
[15:54:18] <Universal_Omega>	 legoktm: OK, thanks!
[17:57:46] <inductiveload>	 has anyone ever written an extension that uses Lua? I'm a bit stuck with the php = mw_interface bit - it seems to just be nil
[17:58:20] <Reedy>	 Are you meaning an extension that extends/enhances Scribunto?
[17:59:06] <inductiveload>	 so the idea is that the extension provides a Lua library that can access some stuff from the DB
[17:59:22] <inductiveload>	 as suggested https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage/+/698770
[17:59:37] <Reedy>	 Doesn't Wikibase basically do that?
[18:00:35] <inductiveload>	 i don't know, I'm blindly hacking around and the documentation i did find said "In the attempt to figure out how the hell this is done, I've figured out the following, which, unfortunately, does not work "
[18:01:46] <inductiveload>	 though I have got as far as being able to call a lua function in the extension, all the examples I can find assign php = mw_interface, except that appears to be null
[18:01:52] <inductiveload>	 nil, rather
[18:05:55] <inductiveload>	 actually, it's just {}
[18:07:51] <inductiveload>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/Wikibase/blob/174450de8fdeabcf97287604dbbf04d07bb5000c/client/includes/DataAccess/Scribunto/mw.wikibase.entity.lua for example makes the assignment on the first line
[18:21:35] <bd808>	 inductiveload: I don't know if it will help you, but there is also the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Example_extension example to look at.
[18:39:27] <inductiveload>	 bd808, that's where that quote comes from!
[18:39:39] <bd808>	 heh
[18:40:12] <inductiveload>	 if I get this working, I'm definitely going to make a MWE extension
[18:40:16] <inductiveload>	 as an example
[18:43:52] <Leaderboard>	 Hi, I've been facing this VisualEditor error for some time: "Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server: (curl error: no status set)
[18:43:53] <Leaderboard>	 "
[18:44:38] <Leaderboard>	 It happens if and only if I use the visual editor - the 2017 wikitext editor works perfectly. What should I do? This error does not show up on the internet and hence I'm stuck. I posted at Support Desk but that did not help either. Thanks in advance.
[18:45:41] <Guest2513>	 inductiveload MWE?
[18:45:49] <inductiveload>	 minimum workign example
[18:46:14] <inductiveload>	 minimal, rather
[18:46:18] <Guest2513>	 Ahhh gotcha
[18:47:04] <inductiveload>	 aha, I haven't registed any functions!
[20:29:36] <inductiveload>	 figured it out: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/examples/+/698868