[10:21:47] <Equinox76>	 Does MediaWiki internally use log4j anywhere? Should I be worried about the log4j vulnerability for my MW installation?
[10:23:35] <Vulpix>	 Equinox76: MediaWiki is written in PHP. It doesn't use log4j. Look at your Java applications
[10:23:47] <Equinox76>	 Thought so. Thanks for clarifying!
[14:33:14] <ideepakmathur>	 hi
[14:35:13] <majavah>	 hi? I would recommend waiting for more than a minute and two seconds if you have a question
[14:36:17] <apergos>	 maybe they just wanted to say hi
[16:26:26] <legoktm>	 note that people might be using elasticsearch or opensearch or logstash with MW, in which case they should be worried about log4j...
[18:04:49] <ideepakmathur>	 Please help me unblock from mediawiki, today I created my page and added user info and it was blocked as advertising spam, please help. It was not intended.
[18:05:03] <Reedy>	 Which user?
[18:05:18] <ideepakmathur>	 ideepakmathur, it's
[18:08:40] <ideepakmathur>	 Reedy please help me unblocked, I was just exploring the template and in excitement I added what I do, you can check my LinkedIn as well.
[18:09:39] <Reedy>	 I can see from commons, you're at least productive over there
[18:09:59] <Reedy>	 I will agree your userpage on mediawiki.org definitely looks like advertising spam, because you're saying you do SEO and stuff like that
[18:11:59] <ideepakmathur>	 Yes, that I do, but I didn't knew that word is prohibited. I will update my profile and remove those words. Please help Reedy I'm not able to request apeal from my Talk page.
[18:13:30] <majavah>	 let's put it this way: how will you positively contribute to improve mediawiki.org's content?
[18:16:54] <ideepakmathur>	 I will help in content translation from English to Hindi & Gujarati which I'm doing as part of my localization expertise, I can help review the edits and translations.
[18:20:24] <Reedy>	 I have unblocked you
[18:21:47] <ideepakmathur>	 Thank you Reedy for unblocking (y)  and thank you majavah
[18:31:07] <ideepakmathur>	 Please share your mediawiki username Reedy and @maja
[18:31:25] <ideepakmathur>	 so that I can send my thanks
[18:32:16] <Vulpix>	 look at the (un)block logs?
[19:46:47] <AntiComposite>	 https://netflixtechblog.com/pseudo-localization-netflix-12fff76fbcbehttps://netflixtechblog.com/pseudo-localization-netflix-12fff76fbcbe interesting blog article from Netflix about how they help developers deal with UI issues related to translation
[19:57:34] <merryprog>	 https://netflixtechblog.com/pseudo-localization-netflix-12fff76fbcbe
[19:58:08] <merryprog>	 As I've been saying for years, the solution for these types of problems is to just remove all languages that aren't English.
[19:58:16] <merryprog>	 (On a serious note, neat article!)
[21:55:44] <RhinosF1>	 Why 2 days for multiple high profile security fixes
[21:56:29] <Reedy>	 We could've just announced it tomorrow if you prefer
[21:56:33] <Reedy>	 the pre-release
[21:57:39] <RhinosF1>	 I'd prefer a fix
[21:57:59] <RhinosF1>	 Or at least a mitigation
[21:58:08] <legoktm>	 they're not ready yet
[21:58:29] <legoktm>	 people have been working pretty frantically to get us ready for Wednesday
[21:58:56] <merryprog>	 well everyone appreciates it; I'm sure it's been crazy for you all :)
[21:59:06] <Reedy>	 You can read the bugs when they're public... But you'll see it's not just a simple issue
[21:59:28] <RhinosF1>	 When i see an email saying we've got multiple unpatched auth bypasses, my heart rate rises a bit
[23:55:12] <doug_713705>	 hello, i'm facing this problem when upgradin from 1.36 to 1.37: The update.php exit claiming that the user.user_newpassword column contains NULL values so it can't alter the user table and set the user_newpassword column as NOT NULL 
[23:55:59] <doug_713705>	 I looked in the database ans, yes, all user.user_newpassword are NULL but I have no idea of what is expected in that column
[23:58:27] <doug_713705>	 should I duplicate the user.user_password value in user.user_newpassword ? This seems strange to me... 
[23:58:49] <doug_713705>	 any help would be appreciated