[11:47:01] <RhinosF1>	 if you have localisationcache enabled and ran using rebuild, is there any reason to keep files on disk
[12:04:42] <Vulpix>	 which files?
[12:12:40] <RhinosF1>	 Vulpix: languages/i18n/*.json & (extensions|skins)/i18n/*.json
[12:12:52] <RhinosF1>	 a very quick test didn't take everything down
[12:13:51] <Vulpix>	 The reason to not delete them is, those are the original files. Cache means "volatile", it can be wiped anytime
[12:15:58] <RhinosF1>	 Vulpix: it's not though wiped any time
[12:17:25] <Vulpix>	 have you tried running update.php?
[12:17:55] <RhinosF1>	 No never run update.php in production Vulpix
[12:18:12] <RhinosF1>	 We agree with WMF SREs on that front
[12:18:55] <Vulpix>	 Yeah, and don't use alpha releases on production
[12:20:09] <Vulpix>	 You can change the question to "is there any reason to wipe those files?"
[12:21:24] <RhinosF1>	 Vulpix: well it's more just never have them. We copy a single install to every server with git files and stuff removed. My reasons are less disk space used and a far faster deploy.
[12:24:59] <Vulpix>	 I'd be surprised if  those i18n files contribute a relevant amount to your deploy time
[12:33:06] <RhinosF1>	 Vulpix: its probably a good few minutes
[12:33:56] <RhinosF1>	 It also cuts out composer and stuff because w would never change
[13:40:42] <Nikerabbit>	 RhinosF1: it should be safe(tm) if you have automatic recaching disabled and you think the additional complexity to deploy is justified for the speedup
[13:41:08] <RhinosF1>	 Nikerabbit: I mean it's just editing --exclude
[13:41:26] <RhinosF1>	 I assume autorecache is disabled
[21:54:55] <Andrie>	 o/
[21:55:55] <Andrie>	 is the debian_apache_short_url quest still ongoing or has it fallen asleep?