[09:48:00] could somebody explain the rationale why we should use DumpBackup.php and importDump.php and not mysqldump e.g. [09:56:36] Pddy: if you only wanted content [10:00:16] Does the "edit" right imply the "read" right? [10:12:12] No [10:13:04] neat, thanks [10:13:47] I wouldn't think "edit" could be used to exfiltrate data from a wiki using an account without "read", right? [10:14:33] It shouldn't as long as you're on the latest releases [10:14:53] The last security upgrade included many fixes for certain api endpoints and actions [10:14:57] Not edit, but some [19:53:25] interested in your thoughts about postgres and mediawiki. It seems that informally / unofficially it should work, but given how vibrant that database ecosystem shouldn't there be something more robust? [19:54:16] something more robust than mariadb or postgresql? [19:54:55] I mean more robust support for postgres :-) [19:55:27] ah, spread the word that your personal preference is the way to go? :P [19:58:39] i found a very good video tutorial as intro to sql and they use postgres. so i would be in the boat [19:59:24] * darkblueb <3 postgres [20:02:28] Was just curious how to evaluate the instructions here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:PostgreSQL I might give it a go anyway to see how much is lost in translation but would be nice to know that it wont break in an MW upgrade... [20:03:09] SeriousFun01[m]: issue is, if there's nobody interested in maintaining the support... [20:03:25] once upon a time MediaWiki also supported Oracle, MSSQL... [20:03:38] but someone needs to keep that up-to-date [20:03:58] or when someone nees to test it again, 5 years later, isovers it doesn't actually work ;) [20:08:22] I don't think I can commit to that myself (and probably wouldn't have the detailed knowhow anyway) but if there is a "friends of postgres" MW subgroup would be interested to join forces. In the first instance I will check out to see if / how the migration works... [20:09:17] I think there's actually someone maintaining Postgres support right now [20:09:22] it's not _that_ bad [20:14:48] is there some feedback functionality, e.g. people giving a thumbs up, a vote or something like that? [20:16:20] as an outsider, I clicked a few times and landed here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Config_script [20:17:01] not sure all of that sinks in on the first read ! but I will note that the type renders really well ... its good looking to be sure [20:17:33] Pddy: there is an extension https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ArticleFeedbackv5 [20:17:44] SeriousFun01[m]: merci [20:18:48] > other db systems [20:18:53] abstract db should help with that [20:22:37] Pddy: its pretty basic. i think it was once a core wikimedia extension but is no longer. it doesn't quite fit the wikipedia use case but for standalone wiki's its useful [20:28:15] not core, but it was deployed [20:28:24] too much low-quality feedback at the end of the day