[10:28:15] <ashley>	 anyone here with mediawiki/* +2 rights and bored enough to take a look at some patches against an unmaintained extension? :)
[11:45:50] <msnhinet8>	 hi
[11:47:05] <msnhinet8>	 hi, please shoutwiki how much time can upgreate mediawiki 1.35?
[11:47:50] <msnhinet8>	 the month murch 2022 can use?
[11:48:13] <msnhinet8>	 sorry i from in taiwan, i can little english.
[11:48:40] <msnhinet8>	 The Wiki Creation Wizard is currently offline while we fix some bugs with it.
[11:48:41] <msnhinet8>	 Please check back soon!
[11:49:21] <msnhinet8>	 Jack Phoenix staff have here?
[11:55:32] <msnhinet8>	 ok
[11:55:36] <msnhinet8>	 thanks.
[19:53:12] <ryzenda>	 I am about to install MediaWiki and I thought MediaWiki supported PHP 8.1, but I just noticed https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248925 suggesting not compatible. Will it become compatible soon or no eta? 
[19:54:38] <Krinkle>	 non-descrypt boolean/str/int parameters, there is such a thing as too many! /me 
[19:54:42] <Krinkle>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/core/+/ffa162e1142aaf7e2687e5071476870219f354cb/includes/specials/SpecialLog.php#238
[19:54:48] <Krinkle>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/core/+/ffa162e1142aaf7e2687e5071476870219f354cb/includes/logging/LogEventsList.php#641
[19:54:58] <Krinkle>	 new LogPager(
[19:54:58] <Krinkle>	 			'',
[19:54:58] <Krinkle>	 			false,
[19:54:58] <Krinkle>	 			false,
[19:54:58] <Krinkle>	 			false,
[19:54:58] <Krinkle>	 			'',
[19:54:58] <Krinkle>	 			'',
[19:54:59] <Krinkle>	 			0)
[19:55:03] <Krinkle>	 who knows that that means
[19:55:04] <Krinkle>	 xD
[19:55:33] <Krinkle>	 (the answer is: a whole load of nothing)
[20:11:41] <Nemo_bis>	 ah, logging, our most beloved piece of code
[20:11:59] <Nemo_bis>	 after the parser (but helpfully combined with it anyway)
[20:41:18] <moonmoon>	 ryzenda: php 8.1 support is actively a work in progress but there's no real eta
[20:41:48] <moonmoon>	 by and large things should mostly work however
[20:51:29] <ryzenda>	 moonmoon, re: "mostly work" you mean with latest git pull request code, right? Or does that include the stable 1.37.1 release mostly works too?
[20:52:48] <ryzenda>	 Oh also, if I install MediaWiki using a PHP 7.4 setup, and then I switch to PHP 8.1 later in my hosting provider control panel, will it just work still once MediaWiki is fully compatible with PHP 8.1? Or will I have to do some work to upgrade a few MediaWiki things too?
[20:54:39] <ryzenda>	 Oh and I am also confused about this warning that I see:
[20:54:52] <ryzenda>	 "MediaWiki is not compatible with PHP 7.3.0 - 7.3.18 and 7.4.0 - 7.4.2 due to an upstream bug. Use PHP 7.3.19+ or 7.4.3+ instead. See task T246594 for more information."
[20:54:52] <stashbot>	 T246594: Prevent use of known buggy versions of PHP (that are greater than the minimum supported PHP version) (7.4.0 – 7.4.8, and 7.3.0 - 7.3.18) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246594
[20:56:04] <ryzenda>	 My hosting provider only provides versions PHP 7.2, 7.3, 7.4, 8.0, 8.1
[20:59:15] <ryzenda>	 Oh nevermind, I see PHP 7.4 is running as 7.4.15
[21:02:03] <AntiComposite>	 yeah, there are a bunch of other problems with running PHP >= 7.4.0 && < 7.4.2
[21:04:10] <Reedy>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T299693 is the main known issue with 8.1
[21:04:14] <Reedy>	 But it's outside our control
[22:27:15] <enterprisey>	 making some edits on mediawikiwiki, here if you want to yell about them
[22:36:43] * p858snake|L yells at enterprisey for not making edits on mediawikiwiki earlier
[22:38:46] <enterprisey>	 :)
[22:39:42] * Izno installs some JavaScript in mediawikiwiki that locks him to editing there.
[22:40:08] <enterprisey>	 editing with translation unit markers is zero fun
[22:40:19] <Izno>	 I don't edit those pages.
[22:42:01] <enterprisey>	 if I change tvar names do I die
[22:42:11] <Izno>	 someone might murder you
[22:42:25] <p858snake|L>	 it wipes the translations out or something
[22:42:41] <p858snake|L>	 just bribe oona to do the edits for you
[22:42:51] <enterprisey>	 but they used _bad names_ :(
[22:43:28] <p858snake|L>	 there is a method to rename them from memory, have a look at the translate docs
[22:45:23] <enterprisey>	 alright, for people stalking my mediawikiwiki contribs, I also did https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User-Agent_policy&diff=22928874&oldid=22907302
[22:45:34] <enterprisey>	 and that is all the <translate> I have the stomach for today
[22:45:45] <enterprisey>	 time to pop the stack back to my user script I was writing...
[22:47:54] <AntiComposite>	 tvar names would have to be fixed manually
[22:48:02] <AntiComposite>	 for each translation
[22:48:29] * AntiComposite slaps enterprisey with a wet trout for using <source>
[22:48:44] <enterprisey>	 it was in the original, no bulli
[22:49:09] <enterprisey>	 oh nevermind that's egregious, I'll fix it
[22:50:32] <enterprisey>	 slight redundancy remains around Api-User-Agent usage wording but can't be bothered