[01:29:09] I forgot which extension it is from but I don't think I am able to use the extension that adds the "Cite" option in the page editor, to provide the Templates menu dropdown item for cite web/news/book/journal, etc, but I want to implement some sort of extension or bot to automate populating filling in information for citing references, notable auto generating the title of web urls. I was looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/w [01:29:09] iki/Help:Citation_tools and also https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot to see if I can simplify a lot of the repetitive tasks for correcting citations. Is there a way to add a button to the toolbar in edit pages to click and auto generate the titles for urls? Or for bookmarklets, is there a way I can add a button to provide the capability to everyone that uses the site? [01:29:53] it's called citoid I think [01:30:59] Ah nice! I was looking into a JavaScript-based solution, but CORS blocks a lot of the requests to external sites to detect the titles. I'll check out citoid [01:31:51] oh, it's not an extension, but a node.js service [01:32:07] There is an extension... [01:32:18] But it's to use the service :P [01:33:46] Oh, apparently "Node.js can be installed onto Shared, VPS, and Dedicated Servers." so I'll look into that [01:36:13] "CORS blocks a lot of the requests to external sites to detect the titles" yup I recently ran into this with one of my projects [01:36:28] pass everything through a service I guess [01:59:51] sweet! I got node.js set up on my shared hosting account! [02:15:34] I'm attempting to enable the VisualEditor extension again, "Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 400)" Oh yeah, cuz of that "AllowEncodedSlashes NoDecode" issue that my webhost is not able to offer that. [02:23:43] enterprisey, In addition to Citoid, have you looked into https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Citation_bot / https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot ? [02:24:10] I've heard about that, yeah [02:24:26] I see Citation bot mentions "CrossRef (DOI), PMID, PMC and JSTOR" and Citoid mentions "URL, DOI, ISBN, PMID, PMCID or QID" [02:28:51] https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Urx0fjtc56nmf4jt "but [Citation bot] is not as good as the Wikipedia install which gives better results." [03:11:45] Oh also, Citoid uses VisualEditor, which I can't use. Is it possible to use Citoid without VisualEditor? [03:13:12] "but also may be accessible from the wikicode editing palette, if activated." -- does this mean Citoid can be used without VisualEditor? [03:13:32] as stated on https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Citoid#Installation [03:15:48] the Citoid API will work fine without VE installed, but you obviously can't use the VE citation tool without VE [03:19:56] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrandonXLF/Autoref might work for what you want to do [04:01:32] I accidentally started importDump with the wrong username-prefix and stopped it, but a few imports happened with that prefix. Where should I look in the database? actor, job, objectcache, page tables? [04:04:58] hopefully I only need to fix the actors table, right? [04:05:58] that's the idea, at least [04:06:31] should i change the actors table before or after php rebuildrecentchanges.php;php initSiteStats.php ? [04:07:52] or maybe it doesn't matter [04:25:28] oh fuck, lol, duplicate entry [04:34:31] So then maybe I need to adjust the actor_id values in revision_actor_temp [04:38:11] all fixed [05:13:48] AntiComposite, Autoref seems nice, but more specifically I am looking for a quick way to automate filling in the titles in references in https://moasspedia.org/wiki/List_of_ape-made_music so that I don't have to do the work manually, and for any future post as well, whether a single button click on the edit page to fill it in or using a bot [11:08:37] Hi, can anyone help me. I'm trying to update MediaWiki from 1.34.4 to the latest version. When I do, however, it seems to break my installation and I get a server error when visiting the wiki. I've followed the steps as per the upgrade manual, but It doesn't seem to have worked. [11:08:37] My original installation is in /var/www/html/mediawiki, so the steps I took are: [11:08:38] > downloaded mediawiki file and upload it to /var/www/html [11:08:38] > copy and move across files such as .htaccess, LocalSettings.php [11:08:39] > rename mediawiki to mediawiki-old [11:08:39] > rename new mediawiki installation as "mediawiki" like the old one. [11:08:40] I get this error when visti [11:08:56] visiting the wiki, though: "The requested URL was not found on this server" [11:09:25] If I revert the filenames then the wiki comes back, but obviously still on 1.34.4 [11:32:29] (seems like "sunshine" is already registered); does anyone have any idea how to solve my issue with MediaWiki upgrade? [11:58:32] File permissions? [12:00:34] Guest38: Maybe you had some .htaccess file on the old folder with rewrite rules that made it work on the URL you're using [12:07:14] https://spicewars.whiki.online/mw-config/?page=ExistingWiki shows the error I'm getting [12:07:56] (if I try to use the web installer, that it. Console error is the one above) [12:08:33] Why are you trying to use the web installer? [12:09:10] The fact https://spicewars.whiki.online/ is showing as a white page looks a lot like something is broken [12:09:14] !blankpage [12:09:14] A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [12:09:49] I tried the console installer and that didn't work, so I checked the web installer but that doesn't work either. [12:10:06] >[ef93c7575eb1aa331c21a69d] /mw-config/?page=ExistingWiki Exception: Unable to open file /var/www/html/mediawiki/extensions/HeaderExtension/extension.json: filemtime(): stat failed for /var/www/html/mediawiki/extensions/HeaderExtension/extension.json [12:10:19] Have you installed new versions of all your extensions? [12:10:27] Or any version at all [12:16:53] Ah that worked. Thanks! [14:21:19] zabe: feel like +2ing stuff? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/771900 [14:22:24] {{done}} [14:22:36] Thanks! [22:46:25] The link for "a full URL-to-citation engine" in https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Improving_URL_citations_on_Wikimedia no longer directs to the relevant content [22:46:36] The link is https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Global.2C_better_URL_to_citation_conversion_functionality [22:48:48] Also the "A bot filled template for web citations" link for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Citation_Style_1#Bot-filled doesn't show the #Bot-filled ID element since it no longer exists too [22:50:16] well, it is a wiki so feel free to tweak the link :) [22:51:43] oooof, I am still in beginner/learning stage, and still don't understand what I am doing, and I see that link existed since 2014, and definitely I don't know the history about it [22:56:44] Also, I still don't know too much about the WP/WikiProjects thing, but I saw that a lot in my researches the last week or so. Maybe there can be a WikiProject task force to update and improve all the informations related to automation/generating citations with the latest developments being highlighted [23:03:18] Also a suggestion, probably suggested before, but for the 100s of Template:Cite_* pages providing all sorts of citation capabilities, there should be a standard for each individual project to also provide a templating mechanism for auto generation, so that any tools uses to develop and deploy automatically generating and fixing and correcting and whatnot, can be modularly distributed instead of monolithically sourced into [23:03:18] entirely separate development projects or scripts [23:13:39] lol ā§¼abusefilter-warning-linkspamā§½ for trying to reference https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/core.html#allowencodedslashes in a discussion page on mediawiki.org [23:15:32] looks like they've got a filter to prevent addition of links if you have <=2 edits to the wiki [23:16:09] oh, I see. I never contributed to the MediaWiki wiki until just now, so that's probably why [23:23:50] AntiComposite: tbh I would just prefer to disable anon editing on mediawikiwiki to help killing off the spam, but you our principals and all that [23:24:12] the Cite toolbar on the English Wikipedia is implemented in a gadget, with its own backend service. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RefToolbar [23:25:56] p858snake, Commons is in a similar boat. you have to be registered to do anything useful, which means we've got a bunch of IPs doing categorization and/or vandalspam [23:30:28] AntiComposite, I think that Cite toolbar on Wikipedia English requires VisualEditor extension, which I can't use because I can't use "AllowEncodedSlashes NoDecode" apache directive and get the error "Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 400)" [23:30:53] it doesn't, it existed long before VE [23:32:03] Oh you're right. I made a mistake, but also I tried installing that in my dev environment at https://dev.moasspedia.org/ and it didn't work. It should still be set up there I think. [23:35:27] Yep, I tried setting it up as "Install as an opt-out script" [23:36:40] looks like you're missing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:RefToolbar.js [23:38:54] AntiComposite, You're right! The instructions at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RefToolbar/2.0#Install_as_an_opt-in_gadget did not include that. [23:41:27] At quick glance it still doesn't seem to work, but I'm looking into seeing what's wrong a little bit [23:42:18] Oh wait [23:42:47] uhm, so the Cite does not show up when editing page MediaWiki:RefToolbar.js [23:43:03] But I see it now when editing other pages [23:43:28] that makes sense, since editing JavaScript doesn't need it, lol [23:44:20] yeah, on Wikimedia wikis we replace the 2010 wikitext editor with a source editor for JS/CSS/JSON pages [23:44:43] Also, when deploying this on production, is it better to import the relevant scripts with all the history? or do I need to only include the latest revision? [23:44:50] but if you don't have it installed I think the default is just