[11:41:04] Platonides: thanks anyway! :) [18:03:50] why is there still a separate PoolCounter extension if much of the code lives in core? [18:21:49] !e PoolCounter [18:21:49] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PoolCounter [18:30:45] that doesn't really help [18:36:33] ori: An implementation using Redis (PoolCounterRedis) is included with MediaWiki, and another one using a C daemon (PoolCounter_Client) is available in Extension:PoolCounter. [18:39:07] right, but why include one client in core but not the other? [18:39:36] No idea [18:39:43] it appears to have been a deliberate choice so i'm just trying to understand it [18:39:54] I assume Tim or Platonides would remember [18:43:00] ori: sorry, I wasn't mean to give you more information about the matter, but a lazy "give me a link to the extension page" [18:52:04] ok :) [20:02:04] Hi, I want to upgrade my mediawiki from 1.31 to 1.35 and I dont have ssh access, only ftp + running "cronjobs". I could not understand how can I (if I can) upgrade the mediawiki to 1.35, can I "just drag and replace" (using ftp) the core components of mediawiki, like localsettings, includes, extensions and so on? [20:02:32] I checked whether update.php has "to-version" parameter, but I could not find such [20:02:44] Guest85: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [20:03:04] Guest85: In general, yes, replace the files, then on yourwiki/w//mw-config/ you can run the migration [20:03:17] Make sure to backup your webserver files and the database [20:03:29] Hello. How well is php 8/8.1 supported in MW 1.38m? [20:03:52] Forza: officially, it is not. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility#PHP [20:04:02] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248925 [20:04:08] Indeed. [20:04:32] If it's not an important wiki and you'd like to help, trying it and reviewing what's under that task could help identify issues. [20:04:46] Yea i read but most unresolved issues seems to not relate to 1.38 or they are with elasticsearch etc [20:05:21] Php 8.0 is working pretty well I'd say. My distro is suggesting to upgrade to 8.1 though [20:05:22] I'm not aware of php8 issues that are only applicable to 1.39+ or only to older versions. [20:05:57] I'll try :) [20:06:20] My point being, that if anything under T248925 mentions a MW version number, I'd expect it to apply to newer versions as well. [20:06:21] T248925: Make MediaWiki compatible with PHP 8 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248925 [20:06:34] but its possible some of them truly are not applicable to 1.38 [20:06:42] Btw is there a 'call home' thing in me that let's mw foundation follow such stats? [20:07:05] Ah [20:07:16] Thanks for clarifying. [20:10:05] https://pingback.wmflabs.org/#php-version [20:11:05] zooming to the last year only, it does seem there's a fair number of php8.0/1 installs [20:11:24] the main version is php7.4 at this time though, and is also what Wikipedia will upgrade to first. [20:16:50] Shame it takes so long for many apps to update support. At least officially. It's understandable though [20:18:50] How's the ping back made? Is there a config option for it? [20:19:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgPingback [20:19:38] * Forza should learn to look first :) [20:29:39] Forza: it's an option during the installer to choose whether to ping once and on upgrade. [20:30:20] I believe once enabled, it repeats 1 time per month to continue indicating that the wiki is still existing vs upgraded/replaced/down. [20:30:25] Yes ,i forgot. Enabled it now :) [20:30:29] thanks :) [20:32:37] Is there an extension or a simple way to embedd small pictures in articles that's not the normal left center right thumbs/boxes? [20:34:18] Forza: there is if you mean for it to look different. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images#Mode_parameter [20:34:52] you can also say [[File:...|none]] and then e.g. via a template create your own
and for what the surrounding box should look like. [20:35:29] e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Panorama [20:36:05] Yes, true. A bit of html in a template should be enough. [20:42:47] How hard is enbedding a discord wiget? [20:42:57] Time to sleep :) I'm going to wish for avic and heic support in mw :) [20:43:09] Good night [20:43:10] If I rember right one needs Gadgets [23:48:33] ori: I think PoolCounterRedis is newer [23:49:31] I think core "always" had for the poolcounter client classes [23:50:01] but the part actually making them useful was in a separate extension [23:50:19] git history should be able to tell you