[00:00:03] <taylan>	 the correct variants are {{#if: test | then-result | else-result }} and {{#ifeq: first | second | then-result | else-result }}
[00:06:46] <Izno[m]>	 what taylan said
[00:07:30] <taylan>	 if anyone's interested, I made a tiny little Bash script to query the code of pages: https://paste.debian.net/1269973/  of course, it assumes that you don't use external storage, and also I ignored slot_role_id because at least for me it was all 1 :P
[00:08:17] <taylan>	 just noticed I can skip joining the revision table
[00:09:13] <taylan>	 and forgot the "limit 10" in there
[00:10:59] <taylan>	 is there any place MediaWiki users can share such little tips and tricks so others can find them?
[00:12:34] <HerrderZeit>	 according to the mediawiki website
[00:12:45] <HerrderZeit>	 they switched over to {{if
[00:12:49] <HerrderZeit>	 {{if||
[00:12:57] <Archimedes1560[m>	 Slots users discriminated against every time
[00:13:16] <Dinoguy10003726[>	 IDK where you read that, but they did not
[00:14:16] <Archimedes1560[m>	 Lol
[00:14:16] <Archimedes1560[m>	 https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:If
[00:14:16] <ashley>	 taylan: probably no better place than MW.org
[00:14:49] <ashley>	 "slots users" <-- the what now? last I checked MCR was a rather half-baked idea that was essentially de facto unused, both in core and by extensions
[00:17:27] <Dinoguy10003726[>	 this feels like some ancient Meta template that was created to showcase an obscure parser corner case or something
[00:17:31] <taylan>	 HerrderZeit: The templates that exist on mediawiki.org aren't pre-installed in custom MediaWiki installations.  You should use the if functions documented here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions  Note that ParserFunctions is an extension shipped with MediaWiki, but it still has to be enabled explicitly if you guys haven't already.
[00:18:46] <taylan>	 ashley: would it be OK to just create a page in the main namespace called "Querying the wikitext of pages with SQL" or so?  everything is so neatly namespaced so I dunno where a little trick like this would go.
[00:19:34] <Archimedes1560[m>	 It seems someone was really mad about whitespaces being stripped from parameters
[00:19:40] <ashley>	 well your own user page/user page subpage is always a safe bet, but given that it's a wiki (and what you're proposing is obviously within scope!), why not? :-)
[00:23:13] <taylan>	 oh derp, there's already a query doing exactly this at the bottom of this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Page_table#Sample_MySQL_code  shoulda looked harder haha
[05:51:05] <rundg[m]>	 <ashley> ""slots users" <-- the what now..." <- ashley: check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageProperties
[06:41:50] <Kizule>	 Hello, which versions of node and npm I should use for development stuff of MediaWiki?
[06:42:21] <Kizule>	 I've upgraded Node to 18.x, but right now I'm thinking that it isn't a good idea, because before upgrade I had some issue with failing npm test command.
[06:42:54] <Kizule>	 And I'm still having it, so maybe I'm using wrong version, I don't know.
[06:43:21] <Izno[m]>	 Node.js is on like version 14 or something.
[06:43:36] <Kizule>	 Oh :(
[06:43:57] <Kizule>	 I'm trying to add stylelint now to one extension, so I can tell you which error exactly I'm facing locally.
[06:48:23] <Kizule>	 Warning: Error while loading rule 'compat/compat': findUp is not defined
[06:48:41] <Kizule>	 Occurred while linting C:\Users\zoran\Desktop\development\mediawiki-core\extensions\RevisionCommentSupplement\composer.json Use --force to continue.
[06:48:49] <Kizule>	 Aborted due to warnings.
[06:50:48] <Kizule>	 CI is using Node 14, let me downgrade to it..
[06:52:10] <legoktm>	 I would recommend setting up Docker and using https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/fresh
[07:10:08] <Kizule>	 Warning: Error while loading rule 'compat/compat': findUp is not defined still on Node 14.
[08:00:35] <OriginalAuthorit>	 Does anyone know why this isn't working? I'm trying to get the contents of a table, "reports" from the DB, for an extension, but it keeps throwing `Error: Call to a member function getConnectionRef() on null`
[08:00:35] <OriginalAuthorit>	 Here's the code I've got thus far, am I doing this wrong? I'm following the Database Access Manual, but it doesn't seem to be working: https://pastebin.com/0mvJX33E
[08:02:57] <OriginalAuthorit>	 nb. typo `$this->showReportsPosts()  should be $this->showReports()`  but same result
[09:49:34] <OriginalAuthorit>	 edit: I added `$lb = MediaWikiServices::getInstance()->getDBLoadBalancer();` and I now get the error `Class 'SelectQueryBuilder' not found`
[12:38:44] <Guest68>	 Hi, I have a question regarding LocalSettings.php: I tried to run a multiple wikis with a wiki family, so I tried the manual. According to the manual value $wikiID to either the values environment values "MW_DB" or "SERVER_NAME", but I haven't set them in my .env file yet. My question now is: are those the same values as "$wgDBName" and
[12:38:45] <Guest68>	 "wgDBServerName" for my MariaDB settin or are those something different?
[12:54:58] <Guest68>	  Nevermind I found it myself
[14:49:58] <ashley>	 rundg[m]: interesting, thanks for the link! :) I wasn't aware of this (although I do know of a similarly named, different, pre-MCR thing of wikiHow origin, heh)
[16:35:54] <addshore>	 CindyCicaleseWMF: just set the KEYCLOAK_IMAGE env var
[16:36:13] <addshore>	 all images are overridable in that same format. <service_name>_IMAGE
[16:37:07] <addshore>	 let me know if you see this, else I'll reply via email too :D
[16:38:28] <CindyCicaleseWMF>	 thanks, addshore ! I will look at that. Will something like that work to augment an image rather than replacing it?
[16:40:24] <addshore>	 augment how?
[16:41:39] <CindyCicaleseWMF>	 Run some additional commands to customize the container, like you'd do (I think) in a docker-compose.override.yml file.
[16:42:03] <addshore>	 hmm, no, currently something like that wouldnt be possible
[16:42:28] <addshore>	 generally speaking if you want to alter the development environment itself the expectation would be that you checkout the go code and build it all
[16:42:37] <addshore>	 however, ofcourse, i am open to new ideas :D
[16:51:14] <CindyCicaleseWMF>	 cool - that's what I thought, but I was hoping there was some hidden feature I'd missed ;-) I'll play around with it a bit and make any suggestions if I find a good way to do so
[20:41:01] <addshore>	 CindyCicaleseWMF: at some point I want to think about developing of the other services, rather than just of mediawiki, perhaps it fits into that category?
[20:41:27] <addshore>	 ie, be able to specify a custom Dockerfile perhaps, and also custom code to mount, similar ish to the mediawiki development flow of defining where the code of the service is
[20:41:51] <addshore>	 Reedy: how many bribes would you need for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/OAuth/+/887828 and the backport?
[20:42:31] <Reedy>	 That looks dejavu in some ways
[20:44:25] <addshore>	 interesting
[20:49:40] <CindyCicaleseWMF>	 addshore: I would think it could be useful for that and other situations where you want to tweak the existing containers for a particular situation.
[21:50:33] <Archimedes1560[m>	 Can you rollback an edit without knowing username of the author?
[21:50:33] <Archimedes1560[m>	 Just rollback the last edit, whoever did it?
[21:51:10] <Reedy>	 ?
[21:55:21] <Archimedes1560[m>	 Name of the user whose edits are to be rolled back. 
[21:55:21] <Archimedes1560[m>	 This parameter is required.
[21:55:26] <Archimedes1560[m>	 * ```
[21:55:26] <Archimedes1560[m>	 user
[21:55:26] <Archimedes1560[m>	 Name of the user whose edits are to be rolled back. 
[21:55:26] <Archimedes1560[m>	 This parameter is required.```
[21:56:11] <Archimedes1560[m>	 Is there no way to skip this?
[21:56:45] <Reedy>	 Is this using the API?
[22:00:01] <Archimedes1560[m>	 Anything goes
[22:00:33] <Archimedes1560[m>	 As long as the unername parameter is not required
[22:00:35] <Archimedes1560[m>	 s/unername/user/
[22:48:47] <moonmoon>	 Archimedes1560[m: the user param is required, no way to skip that via the API (or via the non-API, although the rollback links RecentChanges generates already include that param for you)