[01:25:00] <kj7rrv>	 I created a configuration template for MediaWiki in case anyone's interested: https://kj7rrv.com/user-configuration-template-for-mediawiki-wl4x
[02:58:22] <Dinoguy1000[m]>	 wow, what a great way to destroy MW's caching mechanisms
[04:55:37] <kj7rrv[m]>	 Dinoguy1000: oh yeah I hadn't thought of the effect on cache
[04:57:21] <kj7rrv[m]>	 It shouldn't have more of an effect than any other use of parser functions though?
[05:00:52] <moonmoon>	 kj7rrv[m]: it will mean every page view needs to re-parse the page (and all templates the page uses). Which means both more CPU usage per page view as well as longer load times for all impacted pages
[05:01:09] <moonmoon>	 normal parser functions play nicely with the parser cache -- the page is parsed once (on edit) and the cached version is then used for every view
[05:19:39] <kj7rrv[m]>	 <moonmoon> "normal parser functions play..." <- Oh so the problem is using the username one?
[05:19:47] <kj7rrv[m]>	 Maybe I'll figure out a way to do it with JavaScript instead?
[05:21:08] <kj7rrv[m]>	 Or maybe I'll just try to reduce the use of the config template
[05:28:40] <moonmoon>	 yup, the problem is the username function (or any other extension that lets you vary page content based on the user viewing the page)
[05:29:33] <kj7rrv[m]>	 That makes sense
[05:29:49] <kj7rrv[m]>	 The time template isn't really necessary 
[05:30:00] <kj7rrv[m]>	 Hiding or showing net scripts could be done with CSS for user groups
[05:30:14] <kj7rrv[m]>	 Auto filling names and call signs could be done in JS
[05:30:37] <kj7rrv[m]>	 I think that's all the config template is used for
[05:30:45] <kj7rrv[m]>	 Although keeping it on net pages would only affect two, and it might be worth it on those two pages 
[15:38:46] <Dinoguy1000[m]>	 it's definitely possible with JS - both getting the username of whoever's currently looking at a page, and varying date/time/etc. according to their preferences (though the latter will require saving those preferences somewhere still)
[17:36:51] <rundg[m]>	 I haven't followed this whole thread, but date formatting is a user preference in MediaWiki under 'Appearance' ref. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Preferences#Date_format_and_time_offset
[17:40:16] <Dinoguy1000[m]>	 12 vs 24 hour time display isn't, though, and that's the main use case kj has presented so far, from what I've seen
[17:40:38] <Dinoguy1000[m]>	 the "date and time" in my comment was me typing on autopilot
[18:42:08] <kj7rrv[m]>	 I could put configuration changes in user JavaScript 
[19:56:58] <SeriousFun01[m]>	 <legoktm> "I created a Mastodon account for..." <- Next step, mediawiki federates with mastodon instances 😁
[21:30:37] <Izno>	 does Common.css get fed through CSSJanus?
[22:19:45] <legoktm>	 I believe so
[22:19:56] <legoktm>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/load.php?lang=ar&modules=site.styles&only=styles&skin=timeless
[22:20:06] <legoktm>	 is different from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/load.php?lang=en&modules=site.styles&only=styles&skin=timeless
[22:20:16] <legoktm>	 plus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css has /* @noflip */ comments
[22:20:41] <legoktm>	 Izno: ^
[22:20:45] <Izno>	 I assume nothing about what en.wp is doing :)
[22:22:16] <Izno>	 the lines of interest there could as easily be there as mistakes, or as requests from elsewhere to be nice for internationalization
[22:22:28] <Izno>	 but the former comment does seem to demonstrate it
[22:22:54] <legoktm>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P45877