[21:22:51] I don't suppose there's a "vanilla MW"/basic config/plugin set for Thumbor? [21:37:09] Lcawte: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/operations/software/thumbor-plugins is maybe what you are asking about. [21:39:30] Those are at least the bits that make Thumbor act like MediaWiki when generating thumbnails for the movement wikis. [21:41:30] Yep - just wondered if there was a "plain"/basic config written down somewhere. I know those plugins have MW specific stuff in it, but, there's also a lot of stuff for Swift, PoolCounter, and WMF's specific frontend/proxy setup in there. Whether or not it can be turned off, or worked around, I'm not sure, not done much other than skimmed over the top of the code a few times. [21:44:34] It may or may not fall on to my list of things to look at in more detail at the hackathon. [21:48:46] As someone who is gently advocating to replace Thumbor with Shellbox in the WMF cluster I wish you luck. :) [21:50:02] Okay, I might hold off that one then... [21:51:09] I'm really out of the loop with what's going on these days. :( [21:52:10] I don't have any control of roadmaps, but I do know that Thumbor has not been a staffed/resourced project at WMF for several years now and only recently got a breath of new support as the prior version we were running was still Python2 based. [21:52:44] but replacing Thumbor with anything else is just as un-resourced [21:54:10] My shellbox pitch is basically that MediaWiki has the code to make the thumbs and shellbox adds extra process isolation for the external image manipulation calls that code depends on [21:55:16] similar process isolation and less code generally to maintain *I think* [21:56:05] I may be completely missing something valuable that we get from Thumbor today that would lose though. [21:57:06] Use case is I'd rather the file server render the thumbnails instead of the web server, so Shellbox sounds like it'd work? Need to get 1.39 deployed for that to be an option, though.