[09:31:59] <Guest0>	 Hi, I am having a Composer issue when trying to upgrade from 1.35 to 1.39
[09:32:19] <Guest0>	 Whenever I try to run composer update --no-dev I get the following error
[09:32:39] <Guest0>	 composer update --no-dev
[09:32:40] <Guest0>	 > ComposerHookHandler::onPreUpdate
[09:32:40] <Guest0>	 This file is part of the Semantic Breadcrumb Links extension. It is not a valid entry point
[09:32:49] <Guest0>	 I am a bit puzzled.
[09:33:24] <Guest0>	 What I have done so far. I killed my composer.local.json file and removed all of the smw extension from LocalSettings.php
[09:33:37] <Reedy>	 Is something explicitly including https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticBreadcrumbLinks/blob/87a69003743f1de52338f4717cfcf5218ca5a743/SemanticBreadcrumbLinks.php
[09:33:48] <Guest0>	 However, the resultng error remains the same
[09:33:55] <Reedy>	 Is the extension installed via composer?
[09:34:13] <Guest0>	 Yes.
[09:34:37] <Reedy>	 I suspect it's related to https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticBreadcrumbLinks/blob/87a69003743f1de52338f4717cfcf5218ca5a743/composer.json#L43-L45
[09:35:09] <Reedy>	 So it's a problem with the extension itself, I guess
[09:35:58] <Reedy>	 For various reasons... We don't really advise installing extensions like that (even though others do)
[09:36:05] <Guest0>	 Still I do not understand why it should be a problem with the extension now. It is no longer invoked and no longer part of composer processes. I killed my composer.local.file
[09:36:16] <Reedy>	 It's presumably still on disk in the vendor folder?
[09:36:22] <Guest0>	 Anyhow, will kill that section and see
[09:36:33] <Reedy>	 as it's in >> ComposerHookHandler::onPreUpdate
[09:36:47] <Reedy>	 It's before composer does anything in terms of adding/updating/removing stuff
[09:37:20] <Guest0>	 This meant I have to remove the extensioons code from extensions and from vendor. Oh man.
[09:38:57] <Reedy>	 Yeah... It adds complexity that is hard to fix
[09:39:11] <Reedy>	 You can "just" delete the whole vendor folder to make your life easier (and the composer.lock in the MW root)
[09:39:17] <Reedy>	 or rename it vendor.old or something
[09:39:32] <Guest0>	 After removing the extensions code  require(/../w/vendor/composer/../../extensions/SemanticBreadcrumbLinks/SemanticBreadcrumbLinks.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory
[09:40:23] <Guest0>	 I will just get rid of vendor. I have the database backup and I do not really care if the wiki is off for some time since I am paying for the show anyways. :D
[09:40:38] <Reedy>	 the vendor folder should mostly be seen to be like a cache
[09:40:46] <Reedy>	 it shouldn't contain anything you can't rebuild
[09:41:09] <Guest0>	 I expect so, too
[09:41:28] <Reedy>	 I've gotta head out... Will try and check in on my phone in a little bit
[09:42:20] <Guest0>	 No worries. It appears that killing vendor and SemanticBreadcrumbLinks did the job.
[09:42:41] <Guest0>	 Thanks for the hint. I would never have come up with deleting the vendor directory.
[10:17:52] <Reedy>	 Now
[10:17:53] <Reedy>	 Np
[10:24:46] <Guest0>	 Wow, updating from 1.35 to 1.39 is also a utterly horrific experience. Every time I want to re-run composer I have to remove the vendor directory.
[10:26:12] <Guest0>	 Anyhow, I think I am done. Usually upgrading took about 10 mins, now it took me 2 hours. Wow.
[10:27:49] <p858snake>	 why are you running composer multiple times?
[10:38:11] <Guest0>	 e.g. #requirements cannot be met
[10:39:12] <Guest0>	 Anyhow the wiki is somehow up and running with 1.39. I am not happy but it is up and running.
[10:39:24] <Guest0>	 Thanks for all your help.
[13:56:42] <Reedy>	 That’s very much a crap extension… not mw corr
[13:56:45] <Reedy>	 Core
[17:57:12] <Iamthehuman1>	 Hi and thanks for the great software. I'm upgrading 9 wikis to 1.39.4 and VE is not working on one of them after the upgrade. I'm puzzled as to what is causing this. When trying to VE a page, the URL changes to indicate that I'm using VE, but I am unable to edit anything in the page
[18:15:37] <Iamthehuman1>	 My rewrite rule is as follows and I did not touch this
[18:15:40] <Iamthehuman1>	 RewriteRule ^(?:(?!rest.php/).)*$ %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}/w/index.php [L]
[18:18:17] <taavi>	 not sure if this is what's causing your breakage, but that rule would redirect api.php into index.php too I think
[18:18:22] <taavi>	 which version did you upgrade from?
[18:19:23] <Iamthehuman1>	 taavi: 1.39.3
[18:54:50] <Iamthehuman1>	 ok, got it sorted. had forgotten that I really need to run 'composer update --no-dev' in extensions/TemplateStyles and extensions/OATHAuth
[21:47:18] <Pigeon>	 Hi, I was just wondering why I was blocked after trying to make an earnest edit to Manual:Contents? I was trying to fix what I believe to be an error where a space character is missing after a pipe character. I don't think this would have violated any rules or guidelines, so I'm not sure why I have been blocked?
[21:47:18] <Pigeon>	 Even if I made a mistake or the page is deliberately like that, I still do not see why I was blocked, as opposed to just reverting the edit (which you also did). Could you please elaborate on what I did wrong so I know for the future?
[21:47:19] <Pigeon>	 Thanks in advance,
[21:47:19] <Pigeon>	 Pigeon
[22:08:17] <Pigeon>	 Don't mean to sound rude but I'm keen to get this resolved and calm my anxiety. Thanks again, Pigeon ^^
[22:19:40] <TheresNoTime>	 Pigeon: I've left the blocking admin a message, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Xl3j68dtlw83nylo
[22:23:59] <Pigeon>	 Thanks ^^
[22:31:31] <Pigeon>	 I still don't understand why I was blocked though. Guidelines say persistent vandals should be blocked, but I made a one-off small edit in earnest. I wasn't vandalising at all. Is there anyone else I can speak to about this or not because this feels really unfair. :)
[22:41:28] <p858snake>	 we are pretty loose with the guidelines on mw wiki, although I don't see why you were blocked
[22:43:06] <Pigeon>	 mhm, that's a relief, as I don't feel like it was very deserved either
[22:44:02] <Pigeon>	 also, after looking at the edit, I think I mistakenly inserted a pipe character by accidenty/unintentionally, which may have been considered vandalism ig?
[22:44:08] <p858snake>	 I don't think we even actually have a blocking policy… 
[22:44:17] <Pigeon>	 I was really just trying to add in that extra space character
[22:44:47] <Pigeon>	 I can't remember where I read it but I'll try and find the linkl in a sec ^^;
[22:54:03] <Pigeon>	 can't find it again, but it didn't seem terribly explicit about what counted as vandalism anyways
[22:56:16] <Pigeon>	 I think it might have been on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Sysops_and_permissions - "Users can be blocked from the wiki. This is a useful way of keeping out persistent vandals."
[22:56:34] <AntiComposite>	 p858snake, there is not. There isn't even an administrators policy.
[22:57:19] <AntiComposite>	 Pigeon, that page is general advice relating to administrators of all MediaWiki sites, not just mediawiki.org
[22:57:39] <AntiComposite>	 the mediawiki.org policies are https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Policy
[22:58:24] <AntiComposite>	 plus https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct
[22:58:36] <Pigeon>	 mhm, I know it's not a policy, I was just trying to find what I remembered ^^;
[23:04:56] <Pigeon>	 I'm sorry but I'll have to close this at the moment, my computer can't handle too much at once and I'm trying to run some other resource intensive stuff atm ^^ bye for now, I hope this gets resolved and isn't a big deal in the long run <3
[23:15:42] <curmudgeon>	 is there a  way to have more than one domain for $wgServer? or 2 or more subdomains ? Basically the idea is to have the same wiki serving more than one domain or subdomain 
[23:17:18] <Platonides>	 curmudgeon: yes
[23:17:23] <Platonides>	 that block makes no sense
[23:17:35] <curmudgeon>	 true but it is needed 
[23:17:51] <Platonides>	 blocked for "removing contents", for an edit which actually _added_ a couple of bits
[23:17:54] <Platonides>	 curmudgeon: ?
[23:18:13] <Platonides>	 that second phrase wasn't for you
[23:18:20] <curmudgeon>	 oh ... you were talking about the blocked person Platonides 
[23:18:29] <Platonides>	 yep
[23:18:40] <Platonides>	 regarding what you ask: yes it's possible
[23:18:42] <curmudgeon>	 so, whats the syntax for more than one domain ?
[23:18:54] <Platonides>	 there's not exactly "a syntax"
[23:19:16] <Platonides>	 you can simply configure the web server to show the wiki on multiple domains
[23:19:27] <Platonides>	 that will *mostly* work out of the box
[23:19:59] <curmudgeon>	 well the problem is not on the webserver. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:W3sx7cf1b15odead
[23:20:02] <Platonides>	 you may get the wiki a bit confused in the case it needs to show the domain
[23:20:15] <Platonides>	 (which are not on many places)
[23:20:35] <curmudgeon>	 you see, $wgServer is required. 
[23:20:46] <curmudgeon>	 so something has to go there 
[23:21:17] <Platonides>	 I think it will be guessed automatically
[23:21:35] <Platonides>	 are you the one who wrote that "dead" topic?
[23:22:15] <curmudgeon>	 no i am not. just found it 
[23:22:27] <Platonides>	 what is it you want?
[23:22:28] <Platonides>	 do you want to have exactly the same content?
[23:23:04] <curmudgeon>	 yes same content in the wiki. just using different domains 
[23:23:12] <curmudgeon>	 or sub domains 
[23:23:18] <Platonides>	 may I ask for the reason?
[23:24:02] <curmudgeon>	 sure. the content of the wiki is not dependent of the location. The domains are assigned to 2 cities
[23:24:44] <curmudgeon>	 so the wiki needs to be neutral for the city name (Domain) but the content is the same for both
[23:24:59] <Platonides>	 it will mostly wok out of the box
[23:25:20] <curmudgeon>	 how. i have to set something on $wgServer. 
[23:25:22] <Platonides>	 but you could end up with pages in one domain linking to the other in the few cases where a full url is needed
[23:25:54] <Platonides>	 yes
[23:26:24] <Platonides>	 let's say the domains are london.com and paris.fr
[23:26:38] <Platonides>	 you could put on LocalSettings.php:
[23:26:42] <curmudgeon>	 okay. continue.
[23:26:51] <Platonides>	 if ($_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'] == 'london.com') {
[23:26:58] <Platonides>	 $wgServer = 'london.com';
[23:27:10] <Platonides>	 } else if ($_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'] == 'paris.fr') {
[23:27:20] <Platonides>	 $wgServer = 'paris.fr';
[23:27:23] <Platonides>	 } else {
[23:27:31] <Platonides>	 die("We are not in London nor in Paris!");
[23:27:32] <Platonides>	 }
[23:27:40] <curmudgeon>	 perfect. thats what i was looking for. 
[23:27:50] <Platonides>	 $wgRenderHashAppend = "-$wgServer";
[23:28:17] <Platonides>	 you're welcome