[10:27:33] legoktm, Reedy: yeah exactly, I wanted a review on it and will create another MR for the 1.41.0 release soonish [18:31:15] hm, why is 1.41 so huge compared to 1.40? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki&curid=323710&diff=1191298043&oldid=1190532410 [18:33:50] omg compressed! [18:36:39] my first guesses would be either different compression settings or a much-larger vendor/ folder [18:40:03] uncompressed vendor (108M), extensions (161M) out of which DiscussionTools tests are 41M [18:40:24] wikimedia/langconv in vendor takes 80M [18:44:07] This may need checking the php opcache size setting to ensure it can fit all in memory, otherwise performance may be very poor [18:55:20] Did we not trim langconv this time? [19:05:39] doesn't seem so [19:06:21] Can remove it for the point release... But will result in a huuuuuge patch [19:07:35] would there be issues in just re-generating the 1.41.0 tarball with it trimmed? (as in, patch conflicts for future point releases because we can't guarantee the state of langconv?) [19:08:23] some of the composer json could easily get conflicted if/when things are updated [19:08:34] depending on where it sits in relation to the blobs for langconv [19:09:25] Could certainly build a tarball without it in some way [19:10:16] or we do an early point release to basically just drop it... and then just move forward from there [19:10:38] Presuming most people won't have installed, or know how to fiddle with composer [19:12:16] installing extensions with composer would be nice here as we could export-ignore discussion tool's tests dir ;P [19:17:31] You can get a mediawiki verson with just MediaWiki itself right? [19:17:57] Depends what you mean by just mediawiki [19:18:28] there's a tarball without skins and extensions, but has vendor [19:24:19] "but has vendor"? what is that? [19:24:59] Vendor is all the "external"/standalone libraries required to run MediaWiki [20:54:28] howdy [20:59:06] Reedy, I mean the "tarball without skins and extensions, but with vendor" [20:59:15] Yes, that's what the other one is [20:59:22] heyo [20:59:42] are you all able to answer some questions i have about visual editor? [21:00:13] !ask [21:00:13] Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [21:00:46] alrighty [21:01:13] how can i upload images using the standard uploader without there being prompts for if i own the image and to add a description? [21:02:16] i'm not about to steal media. i'm saying nobody will NOT check the 'this is my image" panel before uploading. likewise, mandatory descriptions should be able to be turned off. for context, i'm using wikitide [21:05:34] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Configuring_the_upload_form [21:05:45] I think the easiest way for the description is to just set a default [21:06:17] as for the copyright guard? [21:08:05] i'll try the default text, tho. i wish i could talk to the visual editor guys to get them remove both issues [21:08:24] a bit groggy, let me know if i'm coming off rude [21:08:54] You can file a task, but can't guarantee it'll get implemented at all, never mind timely [21:09:32] completely fair. i have no idea both were added at all, frankly. at least outside of Wikipeida [21:09:35] *Wikipedia ack [21:10:10] ok, wtf have I done to my dev wiki [21:10:14] Upload error: [21:10:15] >OH TEH NOES TEST CODEZZZZ!oneone1 [21:11:02] of course they leave [21:11:02] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Sav6wgobyobi3adi