[00:08:41] Good evening, is anyone still awake? I have a question about mediawiki upgrading [00:26:02] Guest51: there are many people from different timezones in here, It's best just to ask a question and when someone is around they will attempt to answer [00:26:28] OK [00:29:06] I'm thinking of upgrading my wiki from 1.42.1 to 1.43.0 (i.e. the latest version). It's a very small wiki (around 20 pages) where I use the default skin and I've make 4- modification to LocalSetting.php. I've read the upgrade documentation and it doesn't seems so easy. [00:29:06] What if I create a new subdomain, make a fresh install of 1.43.0 in the new domain (update merge LocalSetting.php, copy directory images and all that stuff) and then just Special:Export from the old version and Special:Import in the new one? [00:29:07] It sounds to me easier... [00:29:39] What modifications are you making? [00:30:08] What do you mean? [00:30:24] >I've make 4- modification to LocalSetting.php. [00:30:27] your words :) [00:30:55] In most cases, you really shouldn't need to export all the contents and reimport them [00:32:11] I can't remember well but nothing really big as my knowledge and my needs in terms of wiki are really basics. The most important modification I can remember of is something to get my wiki private so that only logged users can read and modify pages (and I'm the only user of that wiki) [00:32:34] As long as you only changed stuff in LocalSettings.php.. [00:32:38] It should be relatively easy [00:34:34] I'm scared by all those backups (files and DB), copying new files on old ones, updating the DB structure... I'm afraid something goes wrong and it takes days (well... nights...) to restore everything. So I thought that just exporting and importing in the new installation could make me move to 1.43.0 without taking any risck as I always have the [00:34:34] 1.42.1 up and running behind me [00:35:09] when 1.43.0 is OK I can just remove 1.42.1 and that's all [00:35:30] it just seems easier on such a small wiki... [00:35:36] Well, if you're scared about taking backups... you might want to learn how to do so [00:35:49] Files on disk is pretty trivial, even a full database dump shouldn't be complex [00:36:22] You can do a test upgrade against a copy of the database too [00:36:58] so you think that following the usual path (the one described in the documentation) can still be easier than exporting and importing in a fresh installation? [00:37:12] Yeah [00:37:17] Export and import doesn't retain users, for example [00:37:42] yes... that's in the DB... I dind't think of it [00:38:17] Do you have access to the php command line, or are you on some sort of shared hosting environment? [00:38:31] I'm on cPanel, no access to command line [00:38:56] (shared hosting environment) [00:40:23] I wish updating mediawiki would be as easy as updating WordPress, you just click and it does everything by itself :) [00:40:24] Is there a reason why Mediawiki doesn't have an automatic upgrade procedure? [00:46:06] OK, I'll go to bed now. Thanks for your advice.