[16:58:40] I'm looking at this graph and I do not understand how did the upgrade to 1.44 (late on the 13th) so perfectly coincide with load spiking, especially with session rate unchanged https://i.koumakan.jp/2025-07-31/1753981031.png [17:06:57] no such thing as coincidence :) what extensions are you using? although to be fair, I wouldn't be shocked if some parts of core were badly optimized or not optimized at all for Postgres, given that most devs use MySQL/MariaDB and CI tests SQLite, so Postgres kinda isn't a priority (which is a shame, I found it mighty fascinating to make most of the things I maintain compatible with Postgres!) [17:11:40] ashley: there are quite a few extensions in use, but I always replace them with new versions on upgrades :\ [17:12:17] the Version page is here: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Special:Version [17:13:11] well this is great, why is it stuck [17:14:35] MediaWiki support | https://www.mediawiki.org | FAQ: https://bit.ly/mwFAQ | Stable release: 1.44.0, 1.43.3 (LTS), 1.39.13 (Legacy LTS) | Bugs: https://bugs.mediawiki.org | Don't flood, use https://dpaste.org/ | Channel logs: https://wm-bot.wmcloud.org/logs/%23mediawiki/ [17:14:36] ffs [17:18:49] aye, looks like a fairly standard-ish set of extensions; which inevitably makes me wonder if what you're experiencing could be more of a core issue than anything else... [17:19:35] what I noticed in speedscope is that file operations are taking a whole lot of time [17:21:10] ashley: https://i.koumakan.jp/2025-07-31/1753982462.png this is very funky [17:26:28] hmm [17:27:21] https://github.com/StarCitizenTools/mediawiki-extensions-TabberNeue/commit/62ce0fcdf32bd3cfa77f92ff6b940459a14315fa certainly seems to have changed quite a bit of stuff, eh [17:56:51] I wish it was easy to just disable TabberNeue to see how it holds without but it's used everywhere due to the amount of data :\ [17:57:03] which suboptimal of course but people really love it