[12:08:25] Is there a MediaWiki environment where I can test JS code that hasn't been / isn't ready to be properly licensed yet + not ready to be publicly released? Would either Beta Cluster or Patch Demo work 4 this? [12:10:20] I don’t think so [12:10:27] Beta Cluster is only for code that’s already been merged [12:10:29] I am not finding a lot of documentation on what Patch Demo is or for what it is used [12:10:43] Patch Demo is for pre-merge code but it still needs to be public in the sense of being uploaded on Gerrit [12:18:14] generally no Wikimedia-hosted environment is suitable for running code that has not been published under a free license [12:25:26] Understood [14:50:15] On another topic I was wondering why IDM accounts (also known as LDAP / Wikimedia developer accounts) need to publicly display users' email addresses (which are usually private information)? Is it a thecnical limitation or is it on purpose? [14:51:53] See https://idm.wikimedia.org/signup/ while logged out 4 context (message saying: When you create or use a Wikimedia developer account, some information becomes visible to other users of Wikimedia Cloud Services. Specifically, the email address linked to your account will be publicly visible. [...]) [14:54:58] I think it’s mostly on purpose, or rather it’s been the assumption across Wikimedia technical spaces in general since before IDM existed that users have a publicly visible email address (which could be a Wikimedia-specific address or a pseudonym etc.) [14:55:36] e.g. Git commits have an email address ⇒ Gerrit user accounts have a matching email address ⇒ the CI allowlist is configured by email address [14:57:55] (so from the perspective of “Wikimedia developer accounts have an associated Gerrit account” you could also see it as a technical limitation inherited from Gerrit) [15:08:27] 🤔 I have so many questions [15:08:35] I think I'll email idm dash help at wikimedia dot org [15:09:02] Thank you Lucas! [15:09:43] yw for the https://fox.nexus/@treats/115522955394923047 style answer :D