[00:57:53] $log Remove LTA-created vandalism pages on [[mh:nonciclopedia|nonciclopediawiki]] [00:57:53] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/nonciclopedia [00:57:59] Saved item "Remove LTA-created vandalism pages on [[mh:nonciclopedia|nonciclopediawiki]]" [00:57:59] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/nonciclopedia [01:00:52] Thanks for handling those ones. [01:01:21] np [02:24:25] https://thebestmusicandsongswikia.miraheze.org/w/index.php?oldid=104597&rcid=6901 Anybody in here going to take notice of this IP editor telling people to kill themselves? That's definitely impolite behavior if I ever saw one. [02:24:27] [url] Lil Yachty (Pre-2017; Post-2019) - The Best Music & Songs Wikia | thebestmusicandsongswikia.miraheze.org [02:41:38] DarkMatterMan4500, seen and it seems locally handled [02:41:56] not an open proxy so no further action needed [02:43:29] Thanks. [02:44:14] np [02:47:03] @DarkMatterMan4500 re: your IRC DM; nothing's holding me back. It's just other priorities and with regard to both of those reports, how to handle them. Rest assured, I will get to them tomorrow or Tuesday :) [02:48:17] Oh, so nothing was holding you back? Interesting. But thanks again for reassuring me, so I don't come off as either annoying or pushy. [02:49:29] DarkMatterMan4500, np :) [12:05:31] [[Special:CentralAuth/Why am I not welcomed here?]] @CVT LTA came back. -_- [12:05:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Why_am_I_not_welcomed_here%3f [12:05:32]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Why_am_I_not_welcomed_here%3F [12:05:32] [url] Global account information for Why am I not welcomed here? - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [12:16:35] Reception123: ^ [12:22:12] I saw that account onnthe feed and I was like ?? wdym bruh? [12:22:34] s/onnthe/on the [12:22:34] ugochimobi meant to say: I saw that account on the feed and I was like ?? wdym bruh? [12:22:58] I swear, this LTA has been getting on my nerves, and this behavior of theirs need to stop. [12:24:03] It seems you've taken action on them already at dreadfulbookswiki [12:24:41] Yes, I have. @Reception123, you free to lock? [12:36:56] The LTA is continuing to stalk me and keeps calling me Darky: https://horridgamemods.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Fallout:_The_Frontier&diff=prev&oldid=60 [12:36:57] [url] Difference between revisions of "Fallout: The Frontier" - Horrid Video Game Mods Wiki | horridgamemods.miraheze.org [12:41:58] :BanHammerMH: [12:46:42] [[Special:CentralAuth/Cheat mode on, no locking]] They're back. [12:46:42] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Cheat_mode_on%2c_no_locking [12:46:43]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Cheat_mode_on,_no_locking [12:46:44] [url] Global account information for Cheat mode on, no locking - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [12:49:03] Reception123: ^ [12:49:30] done [12:50:41] We may have to ask either @Void or @Doug for assistance since they're the most active than @NDKilla. [12:58:45] [[Special:CentralAuth/Im at school, answer the question or dye]] Not this again. @Reception123 ^ [12:58:45] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Im_at_school%2c_answer_the_question_or_dye [12:58:45]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Im_at_school,_answer_the_question_or_dye [12:58:47] [url] Global account information for Im at school, answer the question or dye - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [13:04:28] Don't forget John is a steward too now [13:04:36] Though obviously he's not here right now either [13:04:43] Oh yes, him too. [13:05:03] .tell @JohnLewis to look into this LTA if he has a chance to. [13:05:03] darkmatterman450: I'll pass that on when JohnLewis is around. [13:08:29] In the meantime I'll lock them if they still come around but I won't be able to respond right after a ping [13:09:11] Okay then. [13:09:57] darkmatterman450: it won't work with @ in front [13:10:15] RhinosF1 Oh yeah [14:02:42] [[Special:CentralAuth/Buy cialis online]] What kind of name is this? [14:02:42] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Buy_cialis_online [14:02:43]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Buy_cialis_online [14:02:44] [url] Global account information for Buy cialis online - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [14:16:40] [[Special:CentralAuth/Why am I not welcome? answer]] @CVT Ugh, again. [14:16:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Why_am_I_not_welcome%3f_answer [14:16:40]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Why_am_I_not_welcome%3F_answer [14:16:41] [url] Global account information for Why am I not welcome? answer - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [15:10:02] We could use a rangeblock on the proxies the abusive accounts were using anyway, can't we? [15:14:20] It's left for a GS or stew [15:45:54] JohnLewis, thank god you're here too. [16:42:21] [[Special:CentralAuth/HailDRPK98]] https://polcompball.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=50481 https://polcompball.miraheze.org/wiki/Police_Statism#comment-20271 https://polcompball.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=50484 https://polcompball.miraheze.org/wiki/Black_Hundredism#comment-20274 https://polcompball.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=50475 [16:42:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/HailDRPK98 [16:42:22] https://polcompball.miraheze.org/wiki/Fascism#comment-20265 https://polcompball.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=50472 https://polcompball.miraheze.org/wiki/Juche#comment-20262 https://polcompball.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=49935 https://polcompball.miraheze.org/wiki/Anti-Fascism#comment-19967 https://polcompball.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=49926 [16:42:22] https://polcompball.miraheze.org/wiki/Eugenicism#comment-19959 https://polcompball.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=49923 https://polcompball.miraheze.org/wiki/%C4%B0ttihadism#comment-19957 This user has been going around using racial slurs and making inappropriate remarks about disabled people and using homophobic slurs as well. Not sure what you guys want to do with them. [16:42:23] [url] Fascism - Polcompball Anarchy Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:42:23]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/HailDRPK98 [16:42:23] [url] Eugenicism - Polcompball Anarchy Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:42:24] [url] All public logs - Polcompball Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:42:25] [url] All public logs - Polcompball Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:42:26] [url] All public logs - Polcompball Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:42:27] [url] Global account information for HailDRPK98 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [16:42:28] [url] Juche - Polcompball Anarchy Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:42:29] [url] İttihadism - Polcompball Anarchy Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:42:30] [url] Police Statism - Polcompball Anarchy Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:42:31] [url] All public logs - Polcompball Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:42:32] [url] All public logs - Polcompball Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:42:33] [url] Anti-Fascism - Polcompball Anarchy Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:42:34] [url] Black Hundredism - Polcompball Anarchy Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:42:35] [url] All public logs - Polcompball Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:42:36] [url] All public logs - Polcompball Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:43:41] @Agent ^ [17:18:09] We need to talk about Tycio. Today, he blanked my talk page on Drawn Feet Wiki and turned it into a redirect to their page for Joe Biden, for no apparent reason other than retaliation for me tagging some of his images and pages for deletion on grounds of flame bait and cropped child pornography. https://drawnfeet.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ThisWas&curid=185912&diff=526808&oldid=526801 As far as bringing [17:18:10] up my concerns, Tycio has refused to engage in any form of discussion about them - https://drawnfeet.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tycio&diff=524024&oldid=523958 [17:18:11] [url] Difference between revisions of "User talk:ThisWas" - Drawn Feet Wiki | drawnfeet.miraheze.org [17:18:12] [url] Difference between revisions of "User talk:Tycio" - Drawn Feet Wiki | drawnfeet.miraheze.org [17:28:44] Brilliant Donovan, I would recommend you to use the [[Stewards'noticeboard]] to report such things because this may be lost here. [17:28:44] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Stewards%27noticeboard [17:30:53] What the hell? The page doesn't exist and I can't post anything on it. [17:32:45] @Brilliant Donovan [[Stewards' noticeboard]] [17:32:45] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Stewards%27_noticeboard [17:32:46]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Stewards'_noticeboard [17:32:48] [url] Stewards' noticeboard - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [17:37:21] If you suspect child pornography is present, launch Trust & Safety an email. [17:38:23] Alright. But my main focus is on Tycio's behavior toward me and his refusal to discuss my concerns. [17:39:06] @Owen Any thoughts here? [17:52:14] If there is suspicion of child pornography, email ts at Miraheze.org with the relevant evidence so we can investigate. For user behaviour, this is the appropriate channel for that [17:54:45] [[Special:CentralAuth/Myspecialaccountatschool]] @CVT @Stewards They're back again. [17:54:45] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Myspecialaccountatschool [17:54:46]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Myspecialaccountatschool [17:54:48] [url] Global account information for Myspecialaccountatschool - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [17:55:58] @Brilliant Donovan ^ [17:58:10] The Trust and Safety report has been sent. [18:00:13] And just to note if you see something you think is illegal (such as child pornography) please don't post links here and email T&S immediately instead. [18:00:46] This channel can be used for any other reports but not reports of serious illegal content which is only handled by T&S [18:01:19] I don't think any specific links were posted in this case, but just want to make things clear in case [18:04:59] I also kinda feel like the Reception Wikis should be closed because they're giving Miraheze an image problem. They're the first wikis that come to mind when people think of Miraheze, they treat opinions as if they were fact, they're affiliated with GamerGate (a vile, hateful movement that hides under the guise of "fighting corruption in journalism" with no evidence to back up their wild, unsubstantiated claims), are [18:04:59] very heavily anti-SJW, and only exist because the first of these wikis, Crappy Games Wiki, was created because someone got butthurt that they couldn't add Depression Quest to TV Tropes' So Bad It's Horrible section on grounds of the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement. [18:06:24] Dude, we are not going to close them. This is also the umpteenth time someone has repeated reports like this. [18:06:38] Why not? [18:07:04] Do you really want Miraheze to be forever known as "the platform that hosts those horrible reception wikis"? [18:08:22] There's really no need to say stuff like this, as a user who repeatedly kept creating sockpuppets have already tried that, but their plan ultimately backfired in their face. [18:08:35] Unfortunately, there's no policy on closing wikis based on "reputation tarnishing". As DarkMatterMan4500 has mentioned, this has been requested many, many times over but unless they violate a provision of the Content Policy or engage in systemic Code of Conduct violations then I don't see that happening any time soon. [18:09:11] Though do note that a big batch of reception wikis were closed a while ago, the most negative ones [18:10:19] Policy violations? [18:11:38] Any violations of our global policies: [[Category:Global policies/en]] [18:11:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Global_policies/en [18:11:39]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Global_policies/en [18:11:41] [url] Category:Global policies - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [18:12:06] Also, I think "incitement to hatred" should be a content policy violation. [18:12:08] er, misread it [18:12:36] I mean, the unsubstantiated hate clause I would say covers that [18:13:44] Wikis are also investigated by Stewards if specific instances of CoC/Content Policy violations are reported [18:14:08] and if Stewards find that there's many of them but also that local admins aren't doing anything about them, they may decide to close wikis as has been done in the past for quite a few Reception wikis [18:14:37] Unfortunately there's not much that can be done with general statements like "Reception wikis spread hate" and exact evidence (links) will be needed for any actions [18:15:25] If people are inciting people to hatred as you say, that's almost certainly a violation of our CoC and will be dealt with on proof of it happening [18:15:44] and once again, if there's so many instances on the wiki, a Steward may decide to take wiki-wide action, though likely a warning would be the first step [18:17:00] We've been clearing out articles on celebrities and users recently, making sure that we save our wikis from a potential shutdown, and you making this claim will only add fuel to this unnecessary fire. I mean, take a good look at the polcompballwiki. The wiki has been invaded with hatred recently. [18:17:33] I have of course noticed that Miraheze is unfortunately associated with some of the problematic Reception wikis but I'm afraid it's not viable (or right in my opinion) for us to close every wiki that is giving us a "bad reputation". If people look further into Miraheze it's easy to see that we're a diverse wiki farm and the Reception wikis are just a part of it [18:17:55] ^ [18:18:14] Unfortunately we also don't have enough global volunteers to 'police' these wikis [18:18:27] If we had, say, 5 extra Stewards there would be way more removals I think [18:18:33] and also better global patrolling tools [18:18:47] currently we mainly work on user and volunteer reports, so once again specific links are very helpful [18:19:29] https://crappygames.miraheze.org/wiki/Quinnspiracy This is an incredibly biased page, and there are attacks directed at a specific person/people. [18:19:30] [url] Quinnspiracy - Crappy Games Wiki | crappygames.miraheze.org [18:20:01] That's about the scandal, not all about the person themselves [18:22:06] I'll have a look at that page [18:23:14] I do take issue with these statements: "It soon dawned on gamers that Quinn traded sexual favors to game journalists for positive reviews for their game. This was said to have essentially "destroyed what little integrity game journalism had left", and exposed its corruption wide open. Quinn went even further by doxxing and sabotaging an event for female game developers by claiming the event was oppressive." that appear to be backed [18:23:14] up by links (some of them) but the links are invalid [18:23:21] and the first part isn't backed up by any link [18:23:30] @DarkMatterMan4500 ^ [18:23:43] Want me to delete that article? [18:24:12] @DarkMatterMan4500 Not necessarily, I'd just remove sentences about Zoë Quinn that aren't backed up by evidence OR that have invalid links backing them up [18:24:39] The things about the game are fine, we just need to be careful about statements about people, since as you know they can amount to defamation without proof [18:25:03] Very well, I'll remove those sentences. I'm just getting home now. [18:25:20] Ok, thanks. Or of course you could also find proof backing them up in which case it would be okay [18:26:38] Yes, but for now, I think removing those sentences will do. [18:32:48] The page is also biased in favor of GamerGate and presents a disingenuous view of it. "Content on wikis must be fairly balanced, meaningful or substantiated by independent referencing." [18:32:56] How is this page "fairly balanced"? [18:36:52] That part is more complex, I'm not too sure what to say about that and will leave that question to a steward (cc @dmehus or @Void) [18:36:53] Just drop it. I got in the house, and I'll be removing those unsourced materials now. [18:39:04] And the unsourced references are now gone. [18:46:55] Also, this page, specifically the section "Vic Mignogna Sexual Misconduct Allegations". Reeks of victim-shaming, and is entirely unsourced. https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/wiki/AnimeGate#Vic_Mignogna_Sexual_Misconduct_Allegations [18:46:56] [url] AnimeGate - Rotten Websites Wiki | rottenwebsites.miraheze.org [18:47:22] That could easily be fixed by just removing unsourced materials. [18:47:38] @DarkMatterMan4500 please remove any allegations about people that are unsourced [18:47:45] What about the victim-shaming, though? [18:48:11] I'm trying the best I can to remove those unsourced allegations. [18:48:17] Which ones did I miss? [18:48:19] well that should be in the 'unsourced' category [18:48:41] for example "Cosplayer Jessie Pridemore accused voice actor Todd Haberkorn of drugging and raping her after he announced his support for Vic Mignogna. Her story was criticized for having numerous contradictions (if she was recently divorced at the time, how was she too young to have consent?)" is inapprorpriate without sources [18:48:48] if it was criticised where's the link to that? [18:48:53] etc. [18:49:15] I didn't see proof either. Will be removing the unsourced allegations right now. [18:49:56] Oh, someone marked it for deletion. [18:50:03] Yeah, though for the wrong reasons [18:50:16] they just want to movie it to another wiki which wouldn't solve the problem [18:50:29] Should I just delete the page entirely? [18:50:40] YES [18:50:54] It's up to you, as far as I'm concerned all that needs to be deleted is the statements without proof about people and anything else violating the CoC or CP [18:51:25] I was talking to @Reception123, not you. [18:51:44] Let's be civil please, let's not have any bickering [18:52:19] Right. I'll keep it civil, as I don't want to feel annoyed either. [18:53:38] I'm annoyed not just by the lack of sourcing that's rampant on these wikis, but also the assertion that "vIc MigNOgNa Is iNNoCeNT!!11!!" that they're making. [18:54:03] But @Brilliant Donovan, it's great you're bringing this here so I can either fix the issue, or just downright delete them. [18:55:14] Thanks, I guess [18:55:28] No problem, and I apologize if I was annoyed by you. [18:55:58] And is there any way to protect pages so that only Miraheze staff can edit/create them? [18:56:40] Yes, actually. Changing the protection settings so only the author can do whatever with them on the administrator level would be more appropriate. 🙂 [18:57:16] You might want to do that for pages you deleted for CoC and CP violations. [18:57:32] And that's what I intend to do. [19:01:20] You know, I think it would be an interesting idea to have a Permanent Red Link Club on Miraheze where deleted-and-protected pages are listed, alongside reasons for their deletion. [19:02:06] Wouldn't that sound a bit silly though? [19:02:19] TV Tropes has one. [19:02:39] And Wikipedia has an index of such pages, which they call "Salted pages". [19:02:44] Oh. Also, why not take this to #miraheze-offtopic-relay, seeing as though we're getting off-topic? [21:55:06] Any info about my harassment case against Tycio? [21:57:15] They take longer than a few hours [21:58:45] Yeah, please wait while a Steward/Trust and Safety processes the case. At the earliest, maybe you'll hear a response in a few hours but if not, maybe in a few days [22:00:20] Additionally, I would recommend you stay in the server and not leave and rejoin as you do. [22:01:21] Whenever I email Trust & Safety, they usually respond pretty fast, given that I mostly would report underaged users by doing this, and just recently, I even emailed them about a now globally banned user as of November 18th, for a direct threat that I've received from them on the wikiloucowiki. I'm sure they'll follow up with you in the same way with what their responses will be on.