[11:44:23] Not to get this user in trouble, but I just realized what his username is [11:44:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/918105726327595038/unknown.png [12:29:56] @raidarr Will send them a message on their talkpage, as I think it's definitely a good faith violation [12:29:58] Thanks for reporting! [12:31:18] I wouldn't be worried of getting users in trouble, that's precisely what this channel is for! :P [12:31:31] Absolutely good faith and hasn't caused issues for a lengthy period, but it is what it is alas [12:31:48] I kept seeing it, going 'hm' and forgetting about it >.< [12:32:30] yeah, I'll be lenient anyway and get in touch later if they don't request a change as this is clearly a case where a lock isn't appropriate at all [12:33:04] indeed [12:36:19] I wasn't too bothered about that username. [12:37:20] same here [12:37:49] I think R123 dropped a note for them already though [12:38:04] Yeah, it's not an issue of it causing problems, rather a clerical issue related to the [[Username Policy]] which explicitly mentions the use of Miraheze in ones name [12:38:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Username_Policy [12:38:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Username_Policy [12:38:05] [url] Username Policy - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [12:48:21] Yeah, not anything serious or anything, but it is against the policy [12:48:50] but it's not something I'd be worried about, though obviously I'm not going to ignore violations of the policy even if they're good faith, since the policy specifies what to do in these cases [15:28:18] [[Special:CentralAuth/Kemalist Enver Paşa]] https://polcompball.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log/comments/Kemalist_Enver_Pa%C5%9Fa Take a good look at these comments. [15:28:18] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Kemalist_Enver_Pa%c5%9fa [15:28:19] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Kemalist_Enver_Paşa [15:28:21] [url] Global account information for Kemalist Enver Paşa - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [15:28:28] [url] Comments log - Polcompball Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [15:41:32] Locked for WP:DUCK evidence that they're the same person as a week ago [15:43:52] If we were to confirm that they are also the same person, I think we should ask either @Void, @Doug, or JohnLewis, or possibly @NDKilla, to run a CU on them, as we know that Buck Breaking TVRK TVRAN BVLL and Kemalist Enver Paşa are the same person, based on the same type of comments they have made. [15:47:05] Yeah, I guess a CU could be done to see if there's any technical evidence too in addition to the clear behavioral one [16:48:02] https://polcompball.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=54609 https://polcompball.miraheze.org/wiki/User:ResponsibleCitizen#comment-22872 More inappropriate comments. [16:48:03] [url] All public logs - Polcompball Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:48:06] [url] User:ResponsibleCitizen - Polcompball Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [16:59:05] I've provided a general warning to that wiki as it seems full of inappropriate comments [18:35:02] That's good that you went and did it. If I was a bureaucrat, I would've provided a similar warning to a huge batch of users. [19:07:43] From what I've observed, it's technically difficult to even moderate properly given the splatter of logs and activity combined with a limited staff who clearly don't have or put too much time for moderation [19:08:21] It, along with PCBA are wild west communities with edginess and a bit of incivility as the core of the community, and not very concrete staff practices [19:08:45] And of course, that's partially the point if you add A for anarchy to it >.> [19:19:25] Yes, which is why the Content Policy does mandate that local admins make sure their wikis adhere to it [19:19:47] And it also implies that local admins can't just stay idle and not enforce any rules, so in theory 'anarchy' wikis are not allowed in my view [19:20:12] The reason why I didn't warn those specific users is because I feel like on that wiki the issues are so systemic that it would be unfair in this case to warn a specific user while letting the others off the hook [19:20:42] As far as I understand from Content Policy it straight up isn't, a true anarchy wiki would not be accepted nor allowed to persist; the PCBA wiki does skim from that by having a page for guidelines, though how well they're adhered to is another matter [19:22:04] And I do see what you mean; edginess and tbqh, a bit of incivility strikes me as part of the brand on both wikis. It really is up to the administration to take that into consideration. Even the network that wiki is a part of can't really help them if it's a big wiki and they're not able or willing to act appropriately, and the network has officially reached out to them about it before. [19:23:49] Yeah, edginess is fine but racial slurs, homophobia, etc. take it too far and stray too far from the CoC [19:26:53] Well, since @Void's here, I think the CU on both Kemalist Enver Pasa and Buck Breaking TVRK TVRAN BVLL would suffice, given the oldest account also went onto thereallifevillainswiki around the 19th of September. [20:21:02] I thought it should be on Miraheze's global title blacklist to prevent account creation like that? [20:23:00] Perhaps he snuck in before? dunno [20:36:53] @revi heh, you didn't see this guy's comments about North Korea, he seemed quite sympathetic to them [20:52:39] If Doug isn't around to do this for the moment, maybe @Void or JohnLewis could, perhaps? [20:55:04] P.S. The referenced user is Leerdoman74. I've waited for awhile, but nothing happened.