[02:31:56] ✌️ [02:31:56] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/942971459792416768/Screenshot_20220214-231547-373.png [02:32:31] @YellowFrogger I saw that. [02:34:54] Sorry everyone, but I had to get revenge on Miraheze this way. [02:35:16] I had fun when I saw you guys talking about Hirnanian2 [02:35:29] Just why? [02:35:51] The attitude of the users annoyed me a lot. [02:36:47] One of my accounts was blocked so I can't edit in Meta [02:36:53] That's no excuse to act the way you did. [02:37:21] Revenge isn't always so sweet as you'd like it to be. [02:38:07] Where can I appeal? I can't edit my talk page [02:38:44] Which account are you even mentioning anyway? [02:38:54] Ninox [02:39:33] Ah, I see. [02:39:47] @dmehus [02:40:14] I'm sure dmehus is seeing the message you are sending him. [02:40:36] @DarkMatterMan4500 No actually it was Hirnanian2 that was blocked without conditional access to talkpage [02:40:45] We knew it was you and know you have more alts :) [02:41:09] Your behavior is hard to miss [02:41:47] Agent, are you sure it's a good time to tell him? I mean, dmehus is here anyway. [02:42:05] Just a comment, nothing wrong with it [02:42:17] I know, I already asked Doug not to disclose it but I believe he didn't. Also, will Doug still lock the others? [02:42:41] That's up to him [02:43:00] ^ [02:43:49] And, how do you know I have more alts? Which? [02:43:55] You have the check user tool? [02:44:53] No, Only the Stewards and Trust & Safety have access to that tool. [02:45:05] s/Only/only [02:45:05] darkmatterman450 meant to say: No, only the Stewards and Trust & Safety have access to that tool. [02:45:15] Let's not drag this out and let's let dmehus deal with it [02:45:26] Yeah, I was going to drop it anyway. [02:45:42] Nope [02:45:58] I think even JZ would love this conversation [02:46:00] Dude, please stop. It's not even funny anymore. [02:46:22] I have nothing to do either [02:46:22] Let's drop it please [02:46:32] @YellowFrogger [02:46:54] I'll be getting ready for bed soon anyways. [02:47:05] yees [02:47:44] If I continue I will be mutated too [02:48:48] Once more, let's drop it [02:51:01] and he left under a cloud [02:52:33] Oh, he's gone? Didn't expect that to happen, but anyway, I think this discussion may come to a screeching halt now. :) [03:38:21] dmehus Will you still have time to look into the `ysmwikiwki`, especially with the 2 named accounts I have found for you to look into tonight? [03:38:21] [[Special:CentralAuth/あやらいはから]] [[Special:CentralAuth/糞まみれ]] [03:38:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/%e3%81%82%e3%82%84%e3%82%89%e3%81%84%e3%81%af%e3%81%8b%e3%82%89 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/%e7%b3%9e%e3%81%be%e3%81%bf%e3%82%8c [04:03:17] Welcome YF. If you need to report spam or abuse, please feel free to notify any of the voiced (+v) users, if it contains personal information you can pm them, or email us at cvt [at] miraheze.org [04:03:44] I'M BLOCKED FROM ACCESS TO MY TALK PAGE ON META, @DMEHUS, I CAN'T APPEAL THERE [04:19:00] > what ||the heck|| in the world is wrong with you today... [04:22:45] > get your mind in your head yf [04:42:35] Welcome Pileof. 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[04:43:22] Anpang, want a Ice cream, bro? [04:43:30] Pileof: knock it off, YellowFrogger [04:50:26] > grammar [05:05:50] .op [05:05:51] Attempting to OP... [05:06:15] .b *!*@2804:2d5c:a0:* [05:06:22] .ban *!*@2804:2d5c:a0:* [05:06:22] Attempting to OP... [05:06:25] > does that mean "ban" [05:06:53] ah, he seems to have left, I'll leave this [05:06:55] .deop [05:06:55] Attempting to OP... [05:07:00] > oh [05:07:46] Isn't he rangeblocked globally? [05:08:00] MirahezeBot should autokick him whenever he joins one of our IRC channels [05:08:36] > he hasn't joined since the pileof account though [05:09:54] > so probably already blocked [05:25:39] dmehus I suspect YF is referring to the ban command that was relayed to Discord [05:25:45] as it includes his IP [05:25:59] > :SupportMH: [05:26:13] > @Doug [05:26:27] Though, there isn't enough information with the wildcard to make anything of the partial IPv6 *shrug* [05:26:34] > lol [05:27:11] He does, yes [05:27:20] also, we know he has a sock in here [05:27:27] thusly, hi YellowFrogger! [05:28:25] dross, DM me me please [05:38:22] socks are stinky [05:55:04] dross, indeed :) [05:55:23] that might be a good userspace essay, if you're so inclined to write one ;) [05:55:33] well, a good/catchy title for one, anyway [05:56:03] > Socks are stinky Shortcut: Stinky Socks Socks are stinky. They are stinky because they are stinky because they are stinky! [05:56:52] Agent: is `hi :>` on Discord your alt, or is it someone else's alt or just a new Discord user I don't know? [05:57:02] > what [05:57:14] dmehus: that's Anpang [05:57:19] > lol [05:57:28] Agent, oh I would never have guessed that from that username [05:57:35] lol [05:57:59] in fairness, your IRC nick on the weekend was similar :P [05:58:49] dmehus: eh, just the caret [06:01:49] ban Anpang for SRE impersonation [06:02:03] > ok [06:02:17] > but this nickname is 2 months old [06:02:30] > agent's irc nick is less than a week old [06:02:34] > lol i know you were joking [06:08:14] dross, lol :P [06:08:35] or ban Agent for too frequent IRC username changes :P [06:09:02] I rarely change IRC usernames lol [06:09:21] [06:15:17] > [[User:Anpang/Socks are stinky essay]] [06:15:17] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Anpang/Socks_are_stinky_essay [06:15:17] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Anpang/Socks_are_stinky_essay [06:15:19] [url] User:Anpang/Socks are stinky essay - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [06:16:48] ok [10:55:18] I think YellowFrogger should at the very least take a break. [16:08:45] dmehus Are you going to be available tonight to look into the ysmwikiwiki report I filed for you? [16:18:48] Glad you could join RhinosF1. [20:20:43] I’m gonna be straight up honest, socking for a clean start is not a good idea, it makes your situation worse. [20:22:38] Wtf is pileof [20:26:58] a tantrum, nothing more [21:24:45] dmehus, please issue a lock against YellowFrogger [21:25:11] Wait, why are you asking him to lock YellowFrogger at this time? :/ [21:25:36] He has demonstrated to me in every possible way now that at the very least he requires mandated and enforced time away from the Miraheze platform, if not a more final boot for having no intentions to significantly contribute without expecting something in return and at a moment's notice turn to behaviors that are reprehensible in the reasonable estimations of any reasonable user [21:26:19] Yeah, now I see why. I've seen the diff where he said he wanted to create more accounts. [21:26:21] If not a lock, a drop from Meta as well as a following lock upon any attempt to return to Meta in any form, as it seems inevitable that he will attempt anyway, but he could get that much of a chance [21:26:30] His latest edit in red text is the last straw [21:27:13] irredeemable CIR, disruption, and overall nuisance until he matures, and that is not something that can be promised in a week, a month, and after the various months he's demonstrated, perhaps a year [21:27:14] I also advised him in a DM to please take some time away from Miraheze for a week or so. [21:27:23] He's ignored every single advisory to take time off [21:27:30] He's ignored every advisory period [21:28:09] The single redeeming fact was how he disclosed other alternate accounts when it became painfully obvious how easily his accounts were determined as his in the first place [21:28:23] and then he continues his pattern of behavior ranging between CIR to demanding to threatening [21:28:26] Yeah, that does piss me off how someone who was promising would ultimately do actions that caused his downfall. It's disappointing how I've tried to help him understand our policies. [21:28:30] That is not something to tolerate on Meta or on Miraheze [21:29:07] I've given him many opportunities to mature, wasted my time on a scenario that has gone to nothing and abstained from flaming him directly after his first RfP in an attempt to see if he'd grow and this is where he is now [21:29:15] time away from meta, bare minimum [21:29:29] enforced with further immediate sanction if he breaks it [21:29:32] I'm sure Doug will look into this tonight when he gets back from work. 🙂 [21:29:47] Any meta administrator would be in their rights to act locally now [21:31:19] If I was a Meta admin, I would have issued a block, then follow to a Steward for attention. But of course, if there is ever an issue that I couldn't resolve so quickly on my own, I would have a global administrator (preferably a Steward or a Global Sysop) follow up. [21:31:19] I know he can see exactly what I'm saying right now and I stand behind every word [21:31:34] I don't tolerate nor will I sanction bullshit of this degree [21:31:41] Neither will I. [21:31:44] it's time to act and it's time to take off the gloves [21:33:05] also, double the recaptcha, because if it frustrated someone who goes out of his way to make countless accounts to abuse them later, by god it's working fine [21:40:33] I don’t believe it was a waste of time, it would most likely be helpful to other Mirahezians [21:41:02] in the form it was executed, I wouldn't do it again [21:41:15] With an overhaul and improvements, possibly [21:48:14] YF just removed the warnings :P [21:49:34] re clean start, it's actually a well accepted standard for wikis. The way YF executed it was disingenuous and incorrect though. You make a new account with a new identity, so as to never associate it with your original identity, and abandon the old identity. It works great when there's genuinity [21:53:32] dross hits it on the nose, it's not the clean start so much as how it was bungled completely and has set a precedence for it likely being bungled again [21:54:11] if someone can bury the hatchet and renew their identity without controversy, more power to them [21:54:22] heck, I've done it in other places in the past, including getting over poor restarts [21:54:56] :P archived the warning, that should be reverted [21:59:50] it will be addressed when the wider account situation is [21:59:55] probably all at the same time [22:00:03] might as well leave it alone until then [22:00:11] Good plan. [22:13:01] [[Global bans]] RfC [22:13:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Global_bans [22:13:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Global_bans [22:13:19] [url] Global bans - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [22:13:46] Are you suggesting we should globally ban this user? That sounds like a hasty move there. [22:14:41] I would humor it if the milder course of 'stay away from meta' is untenable. [22:14:46] 206% of all statements which are enclosed in a strikethrough are jokes [22:15:04] Oh, right. I didn't see the joke until just now. [22:15:20] the main thing that holds me against a sincere push for lock is the fact the user has wikis that, while I haven't investigated deeply, seem to be okay, and I would rather see the improvement start there [22:15:40] hmm [22:15:44] who in here is a YF sock [22:15:49] Anyway, hi YellowFrogger [22:16:03] Note that it's a joke :P [22:16:14] he sees it regardless, but ye