[00:00:05] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Andyyeung7 Shouldn't an admin just keep this user blocked? [00:00:07] [url] User contributions for Andyyeung7 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [00:44:24] more socks ei [00:45:40] looks like a case for CU and if correct, lock by behavioral association [00:46:05] a conspicuous effort to look like something different while exhibiting the same tendencies [00:46:52] Maybe Doug should look into this user, but it does seem to follow a different route, it seems. [00:49:10] Looks about the same as preceding cases to me frankly. [01:03:05] YellowFrogger has been emergency actioned. Seeking appropriate review and reblock from any available meta sysop. Heck, perhaps @Joseph Zppix might be the one. [01:08:12] I'm beginning to become concerned about YellowFrogger's behavior, as it has been declining recently. [01:16:05] little late for that observation [01:16:13] we're in the thick of it now [01:16:38] global sysop should not have to action on meta, you know something is wrong when that is the case [01:23:19] Then why did you block YellowFrogger again? Wasn't he blocked as an emergency action? [01:23:43] Exactly as specified in the block reason. [01:26:17] YellowFrogger should seek some help to cool down in order to re-stabilize his mental state of mind. I'd like him to take a break for a while, even if blocking him will grab his attention right off the bat. [01:27:11] Yeah, but that edit-war he had was the final nail in the coffin for me. [01:27:46] I've advised him multiple times including just now to spend time away from meta, we'll have to see [01:28:03] and yeah, the edit war was unacceptable [01:52:38] I noticed the edit war as well [01:53:19] I know my action was not necessarily ideal especially from a convention and perhaps in a policy perspective as well [01:53:24] Quite erm, interesting to say the least...at least to me [01:53:38] I mean, it was better than letting it continue [01:53:43] at least in my opinion [01:53:50] but I hope reviewing entities (particularly a Steward) will not think too badly on it, and that a meta admin will address it shortly [01:54:21] I mean, they shouldn't. [01:54:43] from what it seems like anyway [01:54:49] ah well, we'll see what develops, I'm calling it a night in any case [01:55:03] I did find it entirely necessary and, not unlike my RfS, would not have done it in ideal circumstances [01:55:28] Alright, well I hope you have a nice night [01:58:28] likewise [03:02:39] Hopefully, dmehus will come here and review YellowFrogger's actions again. [03:03:42] And to also review the request I've left for him that he didn't look through last night. [03:41:40] Whats up [03:41:42] I was pinged [03:57:44] Raidarr pinged you to review YellowFrogger's ban appeal [04:02:22] Link ne [04:02:28] @Agent [04:02:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:YellowFrogger#Unblock [04:02:49] [url] User talk:YellowFrogger - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [04:03:03] He was banned for disruptive behavior [04:03:20] on top of his previous globally imposed restrictions for having 18 sockpuppets [04:07:32] Reviewed [04:08:10] Thanks! [04:11:48] I also reblocked to show its been reviewed by local administration. [11:30:32] Good. YellowFrogger really needs some time off of the platform for a while. [12:24:17] honestly, if he just keeps of Meta I'm fine with him building up his own wikis [13:21:43] [[Special:CentralAuth/Dancing Stickman]] I got pretty suspicious of this user's extensive editing, which I've added to @Blazikeye's report on the Stewards' noticeboard. [13:21:43] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Dancing_Stickman [13:21:50]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Dancing_Stickman [13:21:51] [url] Global account information for Dancing Stickman - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [13:46:57] https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Stewards%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=236921&diffmode=source @Stewards Okay, now that's real suspicious. This user has said something similar to what Flaming Fist has said on the besttvshowswiki: https://besttvshows.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Wjinukm8pk0fuf0m&topic_showPostId=wjio78it09ssi77b#flow-post-wjio78it09ssi77b (Take a look at the similarities between [13:46:58] Dancing Stickman's reply on the Stewards' noticeboard, and compare it to Flaming Fist's reply on that said wiki). [13:47:11] [url] Difference between revisions of "Stewards' noticeboard" - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [13:47:14] [url] Dark on User talk:Flaming Fist | besttvshows.miraheze.org [14:30:15] You're up dmehus? :/ [14:31:08] Oh, what am I saying? I shouldn't even be surprised at this point. [14:40:22] what makes you think that? [14:41:03] ah I see now [14:50:27] I check the #wiki-feed every day. Don't forget. [19:54:57] https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DarkMatterMan4500&oldid=prev&diff=236950&diffmode=source Can an admin please block Dancing Stickman? He won't stop messaging me, after I told him a couple times to not message me. [19:54:59] [url] Difference between revisions of "User talk:DarkMatterMan4500" - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:57:37] I would let him drop a message, then tell him within the thread to stop contacting [19:57:43] reversion is a crude way to get the point across [20:10:21] though I'm getting a bit tired and starting to see enough of the resemblance to prior cases that I may just be comfortable enough to lock the account [20:12:06] I did just that. [20:15:51] [[Special:Diff/236952]] Not to mention this edit summary even seals the deal, making it pretty transparent. It's clear he is trolling. [20:15:51] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Diff/236952 [20:15:52]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Diff/236952 [20:15:59] [url] Difference between revisions of "Stewards' noticeboard" - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [20:17:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DarkMatterMan4500&diff=prev&oldid=236956&diffmode=source @RhinosF1 or anybody else here around to block? [20:17:14] [url] Difference between revisions of "User talk:DarkMatterMan4500" - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [20:19:10] I have placed a message appealing to whatever sense I can on the SN to one of his replies; please avoid that topic and avoid any sort of fueling until further action is taken. [20:20:13] Thank you. That should stop him from continuing this behavior. [20:20:28] Doubtful, but I'll be optimistic. [20:21:36] Okay. [20:23:02] https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User%20talk:DarkMatterMan4500&diff=prev&oldid=236963 And he's still contacting, especially when I asked him to not do so, and he's still refusing to leave me alone. [20:23:04] [url] Difference between revisions of "User talk:DarkMatterMan4500" - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [20:24:37] I'm just done dealing with that account. [20:55:29] [[Special:Diff/236978]] So annoying. [20:55:29] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Diff/236978 [21:16:12] Dancing Stickman has been terminated on behavioral association with similar cases that have gone out of their way to raise the same stink with the same points every time [21:17:41] Yeah. But thank you for doing that. Now we can wait for Doug to do the CU. [21:18:11] Whichever steward can follow up and review is of course free to do so [21:21:22] Yeah. And I have removed that worthless thread from him just now, since he won't be able to continue the revert-war. Nobody would win that war anyway. [21:22:53] I'm afraid I must remind you that having engaged in the back and forth as long as you did with inline comments that you made demonstrates to him completely that engaging in such an edit war and trying to push your buttons is 100% successful [21:23:22] Part of the issue with these LTAs/abusers boils down to their ability to exploit you and be certain that when they act again, they will get a reaction, so for the fun of it why not do it again [21:23:45] Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't have acted the way I did. [21:24:21] this is quintessentially what I mean by offering them as little as possible; for my part the most I allow myself is expressions of bemusement or occasional humor, which is generally completely negligible in the bigger picture of the abuse [21:24:39] On the other hand predictable patterns of wasted time, that is what exacerbates the problem [21:24:59] Agree with me or not, it is hollow until that agreement translates into doing that I have not seen yet [21:25:12] so please, merely take it to heart [21:25:39] Alright. But I'm glad it's over (I hope). [21:28:01] Because I don't want this to occur again for as long as I am here or as long as I steer away from it. (I feel like I'm cursed at this point). [21:31:02] It will happen again, I promise you. [21:31:05] The question is how you handle it. [21:31:11] If it's not him, another. [21:31:23] It cannot be resolved by avoiding, only by change. [21:33:51] And edit-warring OBVIOUSLY won't help at all. And neither will trying to wheel-war over something as stupid as a simple dispute. The question here is how it's supposed to be handled. [21:36:59] I'd suggest the same process I would suggest for edit warring on qualitipedia [21:37:35] when it is demonstrated that the other party is willing to revert you in the ground, be the one to cease, leave a final message, ensure admins/proper individuals are notified and then ignore it completely until progress has been made from above [21:37:59] though in qp's case of course it would be you coming from above to mediate, but it's the principle I'm after [21:38:15] I still remember some of the words I've received from dmehus, Void and RhinosF1 told me a while back. June and even October. [21:38:38] You remember, but now you must act on them. [21:39:10] I've seen some marginal improvements in process QP side, which is good and should continue. Clearly however, there is room for continued work and growth. [21:40:38] I have noticed a pattern from the users I have edit-warred in the past. Gay Socrates, and several user accounts who edit-warred with me all turned out to be socks, so this one wasn't really surprising whatsoever. [21:41:19] That's a starting point that should be pinpointed in the right direction. [21:41:47] So then, an answer may be to streamline the process where the edit war is attempted and just make it a quick exchange before realizing it's just going to be a loop, and deferring from there. [21:42:28] if the trolling/vandalism isn't really disrupting other users try not to revert war [21:43:52] Yeah, especially I made it clear to that user to stop contacting me, but didn't listen and continued to do so. [21:44:10] Yeah, straight up vandalism, spam, nonciclopedia lta type ranting and so forth is worth 'getting into it with' in reversion [21:44:28] But in the case on your talk page it would have probably been better to let it go after a few tries and clean up after he was actioned [21:45:01] I did clean up after he was sanctioned by you, which was around 30 minutes ago. [21:45:46] Aye. We're discussing while the issue is in progress and has not been acted on by those with the permissions to action the user. [21:46:56] Yep, it's best we leave the rest to Doug, as he has a lot on his plate. However, I do apologize for the inconvenience I may have caused when it occurred. [21:47:16] eh no need to apologize, you're not the lta [21:47:45] I mean, for the revert-war I had with that banned editor using a sock. [21:49:33] But now, let's just leave this topic to rest, as it's not exactly worth clogging up this channel.