[00:49:11] $log Deleted lingering spam on [[mh:irc|ircwiki]]. Looks like [[User:Agent Isai|]] inadvertently imported lingering spam from the former Orain wiki ;) [00:49:11] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/irc https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Agent_Isai [00:49:20] Saved item "Deleted lingering spam on [[mh:irc|ircwiki]]. Looks like [[User:Agent Isai|]] inadvertently imported lingering spam from the former Orain wiki ;)" [00:49:20] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/irc https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Agent_Isai [00:52:03] @raidarr, yep :) [02:33:39] [discord] dmehus You've been so hard at work on Miraheze today. I'm sure my requests will likely happen between tonight and tomorrow. [07:14:15] $log Blocked [[mh:ysmwiki:Special:Contributions/222.2.0.0/16|222.2.0.0/16]] on [[mh:ysmwiki|ysmwiki]] [07:14:15] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/ysmwiki:Special:Contributions/222.2.0.0/16 https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/ysmwiki [07:14:23] Saved item "Blocked [[mh:ysmwiki:Special:Contributions/222.2.0.0/16|222.2.0.0/16]] on [[mh:ysmwiki|ysmwiki]]" [07:14:23] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/ysmwiki:Special:Contributions/222.2.0.0/16 https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/ysmwiki [09:26:18] Welcome Startus. If you need to report spam or abuse, please feel free to notify any of the voiced (+v) users, if it contains personal information you can pm them, or email us at cvt [at] miraheze.org [15:49:44] [discord] https://www.polandballwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Topic:wr97o67uiv062u6g @Agent Saucerman was already blocked because of the personal attacks, and I don't think that guy has any proof to back up his claim. [15:49:45] [url] You are RKoov!!! on User talk:Christopher Khayman Lee | www.polandballwiki.com [15:52:50] [discord] what's the context here [15:52:55] [discord] looks like a local matter which was resolved [15:53:41] [discord] Just a petty troll getting physical with another user by casting aspersions. Dmehus did indeed handle the issue. [15:54:21] [discord] alright, so indeed resolved then; wasn't sure since it was brought up here and seemed to imply something else happened [15:55:06] [discord] of which you could take action on :P [15:55:27] [discord] People have been accusing this Lee user of being RKoov for half a year now, no idea why [15:55:33] [discord] I'd genuinely like to know why as it's various users [15:55:37] [discord] which is why I asked [15:55:48] [discord] frankly I was entirely unaware of it and have been looking at more global-level cvt operational things, though they are mostly internal [15:55:57] [discord] Or maybe sockpuppets attempting to frame the user. [15:56:13] [discord] wonderful, unaware like 70% of the local sysops ;) [15:56:30] [discord] what I can say is that there is a proper task list now, and if you think something has been missed by stewards for some time then I will be able to update it so things are very difficult to miss for more than a week [15:56:38] DarkMatterManBladeMan4000, I am indeed watching closely for potential evasion [15:56:49] [discord] potentially but then we'd need to find the previous users who've accused that user of being a RKoov and see if we can compare them and their behavior [15:56:54] [discord] this can include cvt tasks such as cu, though it is not finalized in any way [15:57:09] and am looking through other users' recent edits, but in the mean time, please keep an eye out for similarly behaving users [15:57:12] [discord] cvt in the sense of scope, naturally stewards are the only ones who can clerk it [15:57:44] [discord] cc dmehus to mention that cvt wiki has been expanded somewhat and merits reviewing, but note that I'm about to revise the cvt noticeboard and its format is not final for the next few minutes [15:58:20] [discord] @DarkMatterBladeMan4000 please keep me informed if you see a reply on there, I don't really check PBW that much excluding pages on my watchlist :P [15:58:45] Agent, which other users have been accusing Lee of being that user? [15:58:53] That could be very compelling evidence, potentially [16:00:06] raidarr, okay, will try and review `cvtwiki` at some point today [16:00:08] [discord] dmehus: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [16:00:16] [discord] This has been going on since August [16:00:21] [discord] by at least I think 5 users [16:00:30] Agent, oh, any recent users, in the last 3 months? [16:01:06] dmehus: see -botlogs [16:01:10] [discord] I don't think so? [16:01:12] [discord] in which case the CU data would be stale [16:01:14] [discord] so rip [16:01:33] @raidarr, re: clerking SN, I'm okay with trusted non-Stewards from clerking, but we perhaps could have some guidelines, yes. also, re: "cvt noticeboard," I hope you're not planning on renaming SN to CVT noticeboard? I wouldn't support that [16:01:44] RhinosF1, okay will soon [16:01:59] Agent, oh, ok, keep an eye out for potential future socks then :) [16:02:12] [discord] dmehus, the changes are exclusively on cvtwiki, and what I mean is that cvtwiki in fact now has a dedicated board for us to triage things internally [16:02:41] [discord] this is to help ensure that all things that come to cvt/steward attention are in some way known, and who is addressing them or who has addressed them is in some form known [16:02:44] I'm off to eat soon [16:03:35] [discord] any significant change to SN is pending a formal suggestion, which is in development by multiple parties and so is not something that can be finalized just yet, but it is on my menu to consider [16:03:37] @raidarr, oh, interesting, +1 to that idea [16:05:03] [discord] I very much seek your review, any quick changes, input via talk page for more extended changes, and a signature to confirm you've been over it on said noticeboard [16:05:08] what are your thoughts on potentially making some additional documentation/guideline/tools pages on cvtwiki public (besides the action log)? Not anything internal, of course, but perhaps certain CVT tools, tips, etc., though arguably, we could just move them to subpages of Counter Vandalism Team on Meta [16:05:29] * dmehus is looking [16:06:04] [discord] I think any public operational things are probably best put on the meta cvt page/subpaged, but I like the principle of what you're suggesting [16:06:40] [discord] note that ground rules for said noticeboard are not yet in place, I still need to put together some templates to engineer it [16:07:08] [discord] the benefits of that internal effort can then be used to help public involvement, including people interested in helping with cvt and to make changes to the meta cvt page/sn to help operations [16:16:59] raidarr, replied [16:17:30] [discord] messaged via irc regarding replies, not sure if they're delivering correctly though [16:17:37] [discord] I'll resend [16:17:57] I did get three messages yes [16:18:01] let me read them [16:18:06] the ones in -cvt, that is [16:18:24] > I think any public operational things are probably best put on the meta cvt page/subpaged, but I like the principle of what you're suggesting [16:18:24] yeah, fair [16:18:49] > note that ground rules for said noticeboard are not yet in place, I still need to put together some templates to engineer it [16:18:49] SGTM and LGTM so far anyway [16:19:14] > the benefits of that internal effort can then be used to help public involvement, including people interested in helping with cvt and to make changes to the meta cvt page/sn to help operations [16:19:14] yep [16:21:06] $log Deleted LTA created vandalism page on [[mh:nonciclopedia|nonciclopediawiki]] [16:21:06] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/nonciclopedia [16:21:14] Failed to save item! [16:21:23] Void-bot, why? :( [16:21:25] [discord] oof [16:21:26] [discord] bad Void-bot [16:21:34] $log Deleted LTA created vandalism page on [[mh:nonciclopedia|nonciclopediawiki]] [16:21:34] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/nonciclopedia [16:21:41] Saved item "Deleted LTA created vandalism page on [[mh:nonciclopedia|nonciclopediawiki]]" [16:21:41] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/nonciclopedia [16:21:46] .gj Void-bot [16:21:47] You're doing good work, Void-bot! [16:21:53] At least Void-bot told you, instead of failing silently [16:22:01] Sario, very true :) [16:22:19] [discord] I'm about to drop some bits by IRC dm that are slightly more sensitive, so I'd like confirmation that the message delivered before I get to it [16:22:31] Void: Might want want to review Void-bot's internal logs re: ^ when you get a chance [16:22:43] Agent, can you add the ping via Discord? [16:22:52] [discord] @Orduin [16:22:57] raidarr, ty [16:23:12] okay will do [16:23:13] [discord] the irc messages will include some context bits on the cvt wiki initiative + other key thoughts I have not yet delivered regarding steward coordination [16:23:24] oh didn't notice you were on IRC ;p [16:23:59] [discord] yep, though my messaging was weird probably because of some session discrepancies + memo box [16:36:20] [discord] lee's edits look fine but his comments are a bit unusual [16:36:23] [discord] https://www.polandballwiki.com/wiki/CommentStreams:37832167a0ac32cfc40a1673c06bbc5d [16:36:24] [url] CommentStreams:37832167a0ac32cfc40a1673c06bbc5d - Polandball Wiki | www.polandballwiki.com [16:36:38] [discord] hmm [16:36:59] [discord] probably made in a joking manner but I must say, that's quite a... lovely comment [16:37:30] [discord] i think we should continue to find the accusers [16:37:30] [discord] but inquire more on lee's comments and edits [16:37:40] [discord] https://www.polandballwiki.com/wiki/CommentStreams:840515a60d9bc1705654b15d9bcf9271 [16:37:41] [url] CommentStreams:840515a60d9bc1705654b15d9bcf9271 - Polandball Wiki | www.polandballwiki.com [16:37:56] [discord] https://www.polandballwiki.com/wiki/CommentStreams:D70ae9761bb33e7dd84ced69b27e0960 [16:37:57] [url] Better that that evil Americans. - Polandball Wiki | www.polandballwiki.com [16:38:00] [discord] what am I reading [16:38:29] [discord] i took a look at christopher lee's contributions and saw what unusual comments he made [16:38:57] [discord] it just sounds off [16:39:23] Welcome SOUUUP. If you need to report spam or abuse, please feel free to notify any of the voiced (+v) users, if it contains personal information you can pm them, or email us at cvt [at] miraheze.org [16:39:26] Hi [16:39:26] [discord] @Castle any other comments? [16:39:33] [discord] SOUUUP: hello [16:39:39] [discord] need anything? [16:40:12] [discord] some of his comments are off [16:40:15] Yes I will need one thing but you have to promise me [16:40:32] [discord] SOUUUP: I'm listening... [16:40:41] Is that you agent [16:40:45] because it says bought [16:40:49] Bot [16:41:38] SOUUUP: yes it is [16:42:00] So can you do me a favor [16:42:03] So can you do me a favor [16:42:11] SOUUUP: go ahead and say it [16:42:48] I need a wiki [16:43:02] If you would like me to explain myself don’t hesitate to ask [16:43:12] all right, you can request on Meta [16:43:23] Well uh [16:43:32] I banned [16:43:39] [discord] https://www.polandballwiki.com/wiki/CommentStreams:4a03b5f288c53395287bb4234601b867 [16:43:41] SOUUUP: what's the error you get? [16:43:41] [url] CommentStreams:4a03b5f288c53395287bb4234601b867 - Polandball Wiki | www.polandballwiki.com [16:43:43] So what do I do to request account [16:43:53] Account creation error [16:44:05] Editing from your IP address has been temporarily restricted [16:44:06] Editing from your IP address has been temporarily restricted [16:44:11] ah [16:44:25] What [16:44:34] [discord] https://www.polandballwiki.com/wiki/CommentStreams:6168f316bd59ce0aeedbf9b8b2b720df [16:44:35] [url] CommentStreams:6168f316bd59ce0aeedbf9b8b2b720df - Polandball Wiki | www.polandballwiki.com [16:44:44] SOUUUP: can you DM me a screenshot of the error so that I can check this? [16:44:58] How do I DM you [16:45:16] SOUUUP: send me a message [16:45:28] [discord] i found an edit he did on palestine - you should take a look [16:45:28] /msg Agent [16:45:29] you can send pictures in ifrc [16:45:29] [discord] https://www.polandballwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Palestineball&diff=prev&oldid=1284504&diffmode=source [16:45:42] [url] Difference between revisions of "Palestineball" - Polandball Wiki | www.polandballwiki.com [16:45:48] [discord] i found an edit he did on palestine - you should take a look [16:45:48] [discord] rkoov usually edits with multiple exclamation points [16:45:50] [discord] https://www.polandballwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Palestineball&diff=prev&oldid=1284504&diffmode=source [16:45:54] [url] Difference between revisions of "Palestineball" - Polandball Wiki | www.polandballwiki.com [16:45:54] So I am able to send pictures [16:46:15] [discord] https://www.polandballwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Gazaball&diff=prev&oldid=1284010&diffmode=source [16:46:19] [url] Difference between revisions of "Gazaball" - Polandball Wiki | www.polandballwiki.com [16:46:23] SOUUUP: upload the picture to an image sharing site, and send the link [16:46:56] Look they think my IP is a proxy [16:47:06] [discord] oh [16:47:09] When it is no such thing [16:47:23] [discord] so do you think there is a possibility that they *are* RKoov? [16:47:40] [discord] he could be a person of interest [16:47:46] Who [16:48:17] SOUUUP: they are talking about an earlier conversation [16:48:50] Ok [16:48:51] SOUUUP: I have strong reason to believe you are Octahedron foundation so I will have to decline your request [16:49:16] cc dmehus who is the blocking Steward ^ [16:50:01] But I’m not [16:50:28] [discord] Hmm, are there any other traits which RKoov displays that are telltale signs of him? [16:50:35] Doug has nothing to do with this [16:50:41] [discord] I'm not too aware of his case as this was way before my time [16:50:42] Automatic block [16:51:13] H [16:51:46] [discord] If anything, I'll ask the other local sysops what they think about this [16:53:09] OK let’s cut the bullshit you wanna hear the truth [16:53:11] OK let’s cut the bullshit you wanna hear the truth [16:53:19] Do you wanna hear who I really am [16:54:08] SOUUUP: let's hear it ;) [16:54:29] I am [16:54:53] OCTAHEDRON FFF [16:55:02] cool [16:55:11] But I just wanted to clean start [16:55:14] stop block evading or else your block will be extended [16:55:26] OK but I just wanted to clean salt [16:55:28] OK but I just wanted to clean salt [16:55:33] StArt [16:55:54] all I ever wanted was a clean start ever since I got locked [16:55:59] SOUUUP: you had various accounts and failed to heed to the advice given to you [16:56:11] I tried OK [16:56:22] I forgot if you got locked but if you did, appeal in a while and stop trying to evade your lock [16:56:23] Only one of the accounts was supposed to be evading blocks [16:56:36] Evading blocks and locks only prolongs them [16:56:47] Ik [16:56:49] Be smart, take some time off Miraheze and come back in a while once you've thought things through [16:56:51] SOUUP, please e-mail stewards[at]miraheze.org [16:57:01] That’s not a valid email address [16:57:04] s/SOUP/SOUUP [16:57:14] SOUUUP: replace [at] with @ :) [16:57:15] Can I have an link [16:57:17] s/SOUUP/SOUUUP [16:57:17] dmehus meant to say: SOUUUP, please e-mail stewards[at]miraheze.org [16:57:24] stewards@miraheze.org [16:57:32] So do I put it in Gmail [16:57:36] yes [16:57:36] yes [16:57:40] in the To: field [16:57:42] People often intentionally break links to prevent accidentally misclicks [16:58:09] and email scraping bots [16:58:22] though I think stewards@ is already inundated with spam to begin with so [16:58:25] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [16:58:33] Agent, yeah [16:58:40] surprisingly not as bad as I thought though [16:58:58] sre@ gets the most, I'm told, due to things like noc@ and abuse@ forwarding, I suspect [16:59:29] sre@ did get a lot of spam at one point, but mostly from Grafana itself lol [16:59:32] tbh, abuse@ could probably be forwarded to ts@ [16:59:51] abuse@ is seldomly used but perhaps [16:59:52] Agent, lol [17:00:03] I think the only emails I've seen come to abuse@ are spam [17:00:14] okay [17:00:21] you can keep it for now then :P [17:00:34] lol [17:02:44] grafana sends us a lot of spam [17:02:51] It only goes to me + Universalomega [17:03:01] That check is stupid [17:03:47] RhinosF1, wow weird [17:04:07] dmehus: we set it up, it's just very flappy [17:04:39] RhinosF1, ah [17:04:56] dmehus: do check -botlogs too [17:05:05] @Castle, thanks. I'm not familiar with RKroov or whatever, though, but the diffs do seem a bit generic [17:05:42] [discord] you're welcome [17:30:05] [discord] What the hell was that about? [17:34:08] DarkMatterBladeMan4000, what was what about? [17:34:25] [discord] dmehus The above thread. [17:47:22] DarkMatterManBlade4000, oh it was Octahedron foundation trying to appeal their lock, but they were advised to wait a bit longer, at least a couple months more, to ensure they can live up to agreements [17:47:37] [discord] dmehus Also, weren't you going to check GhostYe23, as I have already provided the evidence from this link? https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/443926951292567562/949328340291059802 [17:47:37] [discord] [17:47:37] [url] Discord | discord.com [17:47:38] [discord] Sorry for the re-post again. [17:47:48] ok [17:48:01] will look at that shortly, DarkMatterBladeMan4000 [17:48:17] [discord] dmehus Alright then. [17:48:24] [discord] 👍 [17:48:46] dmehus: reply in directors [17:51:47] [discord] This, overall, is a much better report from your earlier abuse reports. First diffs are a bit weaker, but case gets progressively stronger with the latter diffs [17:52:51] SOUUUP, why are you back so soon? :) [17:53:34] [discord] Thanks. [18:00:49] I have returned to fuck your moms [18:00:54] And your fathers [18:01:00] And your uncles [18:01:07] And your aunts [18:01:08] And your aunts [18:01:14] [discord] Okay, will someone please ban SOUUP for trolling? [18:01:15] And literally everybody in your family [18:01:18] And literally everybody in your family [18:01:27] But seriously I’m just back to see you guys [18:01:35] But seriously I’m just back to see you guys [18:01:45] I missed you [18:01:52] [discord] SOUUP Please stop. It's getting super annoying. [18:01:59] Dude chill [18:02:05] I’ll stop [18:02:31] Ok [18:02:39] are we good now [18:07:38] Hi [18:07:58] H [18:08:00] h [18:08:01] h [18:08:01] h [18:08:02] h [18:08:02] h [18:08:04] h [18:08:06] I [18:08:07] hellooo [18:08:23] [discord] Please stop spamming this channel [18:08:27] [discord] Please stop spamming this channel. [18:09:03] Ji [18:11:11] Reception123, dmehus please handle ^^ [18:13:36] Thank you Reception123 [18:13:41] no problem [18:16:11] * dmehus shakes his head; that level of (im)maturity is not the correct way to appeal :p [18:17:41] [discord] dmehus I did ask the user to at least stop spamming this channel a couple times. Hopefully this wasn't directed at me. [18:18:16] Doug's comment is very obviously not aimed at you [18:18:17] [discord] Are you the one locked? :P [18:18:23] [discord] No. [18:18:31] [discord] So then it wasn't aimed at you :) [18:19:20] [discord] I think we can drop that matter for the time being. :) [18:20:23] > Doug's comment is very obviously not aimed at you [18:20:23] Thanks. Indeed. [18:20:56] > for the time being. :) [18:20:57] Made me chuckle. Why "for the time being"? :P [18:22:30] [discord] Dmehus So it seems like I was on the ball when I suspected that GhostYe23 was RickERB23, mainly from the behavior. I did stumble on the behavior unintentionally when I went through the edit history of that certain page. [18:23:02] [discord] so, I'mma take a wild guess and say the foundation guy's platform block isn't going to be lifted very quickly after that display [18:23:29] [discord] Oh yeah, definitely. [18:23:31] [discord] potentially :p [18:26:52] raidarr, yeah, my issue is the user needs to show they can follow a basic instruction. If they take 2-3 months off to reflect + show they can show restraint, then definitely open to welcoming them back [18:27:46] [discord] as with multiple ongoing cases, then [19:11:59] [discord] Hmm, bot failed earlier due to "Cannot access the database: Connection timed out (db101)", spooky [19:16:13] [discord] oh dear [19:16:30] $log test [19:16:38] Saved item "test" [19:18:27] Voidwalker, oh, interesting. Is your bot hosted by MirahezeBots? [19:18:40] if so, I didn't know that. I assumed you ran it on your own VPS [19:18:41] no [19:18:45] oh [19:19:17] Oh, it hit a Miraheze db connection error trying to access cvt.miraheze.org :) [19:19:52] probably should be though, it would be easier for me to access remotely, and would probably run faster [19:19:53] raidarr, yeah [19:20:16] dmehus: check your pings [19:20:41] Voidwalker, oh, interesting, yeah definitely would be happy to have MirahezeBots host Void-bot if you want [19:20:51] RhinosF1, okay [19:21:26]