[02:08:39] [discord] Dmehus Will you have time to look into some of the CU investigations I've set aside for you? [07:57:46] @CVT https://login.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/1997kB [07:57:47] [url] User contributions for 1997kB - Miraheze Login Wiki | login.miraheze.org [07:57:51] Possible impersonation? [07:58:10] [discord] Have you tried contacting them on wm? [08:01:33] @Zppix: look at the edits they've made [08:02:02] [discord] Yeah obvious impersonation. [08:02:37] Those edits are in Hindi [08:03:10] A lot of the rights changes are redacted too [08:04:35] it's a bit obvious [08:13:15] I dropped a notice on their TP https://nicolopedia.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF_%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE:1997kB&diff=4288&oldid=4287 [08:13:15] [url] "सदस्य वार्ता:1997kB" के अवतरणों में अंतर - निकोलोपीडिया | nicolopedia.miraheze.org [11:31:40] [discord] [[Special:CentralAuth/Scott cawthon freddy fazbear circus fox game]] @Stewards That Scott cawthon person came back again. -_- [11:31:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Scott_cawthon_freddy_fazbear_circus_fox_game [11:31:41] [discord] [11:31:42] [url] Global account information for Scott cawthon freddy fazbear circus fox game - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [12:10:52] [discord] took a local action and am avoiding global action to see what else that account does [12:11:08] [discord] individual, I should say [12:11:37] [discord] Uhh, okay then? I would have expected a global lock for that account. [12:12:48] [discord] it's whack a mole [12:13:17] [discord] I'm going to get a better idea of what this mole even is as they seem to have a strong penchant for cgw only, typically something that doesn't even entail a lock in standard voa terms [12:13:32] [discord] But at least the IP range is locally blocked for the time being. [12:13:40] [discord] if it's like mr. nonci we may be able to refine targeting, if they expand there is more to work from [12:19:55] [discord] I'd consider that action you made a CheckUser block from that range. [12:20:11] [discord] let's just say it's not the first time I've seen that range in use [12:20:23] [discord] an experiment if you will [12:20:39] [discord] I looked where the IP geo-locates to, and it's a Russian range from what it appears to display. [12:22:41] [discord] [[Special:CentralAuth/New Scott cawthon game 1]] @raidarr Looks like we spoke too soon. [12:22:41] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/New_Scott_cawthon_game_1 [12:22:41] [discord] [12:22:42] [url] Global account information for New Scott cawthon game 1 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [12:23:26] [discord] now this interests me [12:23:44] [discord] also, you see how he's ignoring the lack of global sanction to just go ahead and make another [12:24:19] [discord] ok, it's on agw [12:24:28] [discord] I'll just port the block on cgw over [12:25:00] [discord] What's cgw [12:25:05] [discord] A new lta? [12:25:06] [discord] He's done this on Wikipedia before. Speaking of which, I'll be applying the block over there too. [12:25:16] [discord] No, it's short for Crappy Games Wiki [12:25:21] [discord] No, it's short for Crappy Games Wiki. (edited) [12:25:21] [discord] Ah [12:25:23] [discord] Okay [12:26:37] [discord] if you have a wikipedia reference for his behavior, we'll log it on our side [12:27:13] [discord] [[w:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Igoryu1993]] For reference. [12:27:13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Igoryu1993 [12:27:13] [discord] [12:28:02] [discord] The archives might also be of use. I created the sockpuppet investigation against him 9 months ago. [12:30:37] raidarr: did you look the 1197kB [12:30:52] [discord] the what now [12:31:05] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/1997kB impersonation raidarr [12:31:06] [url] Global account information for 1997kB - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [12:31:15] [discord] o [12:31:54] [discord] what the hell even is that [12:33:09] [discord] Ah @raidarr I thought you saw them [12:33:24] [discord] I have no idea who that is [12:33:43] [discord] it'll take me a minute to figure out what's even going on there [12:33:46] English Wikipedia admin [12:34:04] enwp.org/User:1997kB [12:34:07] [discord] I dropped a notice on their TP here on miraheze [12:35:10] [discord] They didn't reply [12:35:10] [discord] `[irc] nicolopediawiki * [[विशेष:Log/newusers]] create2 * Aviram * created new account सदस्य:1997kB` [12:35:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%e0%a4%b5%e0%a4%bf%e0%a4%b6%e0%a5%87%e0%a4%b7:Log/newusers [12:35:22] [discord] Oh [12:35:27] [discord] Aviram created that account. [12:35:34] [discord] @DarkMatterMan4500 thanks for that [12:35:54] [discord] You're welcome. [12:36:17] Someone needs to check Aviram then [12:36:22] [discord] So it's clear now that it's a total impersonation [12:36:26] As that's 100% not the meta user [12:36:37] And I'm 99% sure it's an LTA [12:36:42] [discord] I can obviously see an obvious breach of the user accounts policy here. [12:37:10] [discord] Yes, [12:40:44] [discord] heh, the local user creation log just popped with three big name accounts [12:40:50] [discord] and he just hid something, very interesting... [12:44:27] [discord] Then doing a CU might likely be necessary, due to the obvious breach of user accounts policy. [12:44:47] [discord] I have not seen evidence of acting in necessarily bad faith, only in a very confusing way [12:44:55] [discord] I'm going to see exactly what is going on with the wiki first [12:45:01] [discord] Alright. [12:46:02] [discord] what seems to be the case is that he's made a complete local administration based on accounts he made [12:46:06] [discord] some are hidden and some are not [12:46:14] [discord] some creations are hidden and some are not (edited) [12:46:18] [discord] Some are incredibly suspicious. [12:46:40] [discord] Ah, I'm a local sysop there, so maybe I can check [12:46:45] [discord] I want a bigger picture of what exactly it's on about, maybe he's trying to roleplay out a proper administration [12:47:00] [discord] yes, do please inquire as a sysop and get his input why he made so many accounts as local staff [12:47:28] [discord] I'll swoop in with a username policy advisory since only someone with global rights (gs, preferably steward) is equipped to enforce it [12:47:34] [discord] I was also thinking same [12:48:54] [discord] Okay [12:49:14] [discord] [[Special:CentralAuth/SM7BOT]] Looks like an impersonation of a Wikipedia user account with the same name: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/SM7Bot [12:49:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/SM7BOT [12:49:14] [url] Global account information for SM7Bot - Meta | meta.wikimedia.org [12:49:15] [discord] [12:49:16] [url] Global account information for SM7BOT - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [12:49:38] [discord] Only difference here is that the O and the T are capitalized. [12:49:49] [discord] Hmm [12:50:28] [discord] Something is very wrong here, based on some of my observations here. [12:50:31] [discord] I'd consult Wolfman on their TP [12:50:56] [discord] And probably send them a mail, in case they're not around on-wiki [12:58:19] [discord] this is a headache tbh [12:58:40] [discord] either there's a couple extra people who were involved or he's been making a huge web of interconnected accounts [12:59:01] [discord] it's likely impossible to link them all given some are probably stale from a technical perspective [12:59:54] [discord] Why not look into Aviram to see if there's a bunch of other accounts that have been doing logged actions recently? [13:00:46] [discord] There's obviously something fishy going on here from what I can see. [13:00:56] [discord] oh mate, there's clearly a lot of accounts that have been doing things recently [13:01:12] [discord] I can count at least 5 so far I'm quite sure before tech evidence are the same person [13:01:25] [discord] Oh, assuming you have been checking the `loginwiki`? [13:01:46] [discord] I have not employed CU until I have a reasonable belief of true *abuse*, and not misunderstanding [13:02:19] [discord] Ah. [13:02:20] [discord] Right now I'm trying to get a picture of what this wiki is supposed to be - it seems like it's trying to be a little roleplay universe of a wikipedia [13:02:55] [discord] it might explain how wikipedia notables are being literally 'sockpuppeted' to pursue that image, without actually being abused on the wider platform [13:03:28] [discord] Seems like quite the roleplay then [13:03:51] [discord] this will require global intervention, but I want to know more to decide how to approach whatever origin account is there and if, say, I can have them modify the names + put a disclaimer on their global login page while keeping the image on the local wiki [13:04:05] [discord] pages I should say, there's at least 3 names in use [13:04:23] [discord] This is a 1st for me seeing this kind of thing [13:04:29] [discord] but before all that the first step is to hear from them what exactly they are doing, then advise based on the apparent intentions [13:04:46] [discord] Seems reasonable [13:04:48] [discord] and of course get a better idea myself so I can assess what they claim is the intention [13:16:05] [discord] ooo, Wikipedia roleplay [13:16:12] [discord] Let’s create a Meta roleplay [13:20:39] [discord] lol sounds like fun [13:20:51] [discord] How about let's not [13:20:54] [discord] lol [13:21:17] [discord] i'll be a part of the roleplay [13:21:25] [discord] #discord-party [13:31:46] [discord] just make the joseph religion a satire version of meta [13:31:49] [discord] ez [13:32:00] [discord] lol [20:12:25] [discord] [[Special:CentralAuth/,SonicFTW Backup]] @raidarr Could you lock this obvious sockpuppet account of SonocFTW? It was created to evade a block. [20:12:25] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/%2cSonicFTW_Backup [20:12:30] [discord] [20:12:31] [url] Global account information for ,SonicFTW Backup - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [20:12:37] [discord] [[Special:CentralAuth/SonicFTW Backup]] @raidarr Could you lock this obvious sockpuppet account of SonocFTW? It was created to evade a block. (edited) [20:12:37] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/SonicFTW_Backup [20:13:48] [discord] what block [20:14:07] [discord] Oh, now I see [20:17:54] [discord] Thanks. I would also take it a step further in warning SonicFTW for the evasion. [20:18:46] [discord] already handled [20:19:15] [discord] and you know what, that was just totally stupid [20:19:28] [discord] he was blocked on *one page*, I forgot about that detail [20:19:43] [discord] it might not have even been evasion, just yet another one of his nonsensical decisions [20:20:08] [discord] Since he did that, I'm upgrading it to sitewide anyway. [20:22:33] [discord] that would be heavy handed escalation and I don't really advise it [20:23:09] [discord] It was simply a bizarre choice he should be - pressured, I'll admit - but at least given the chance to explain especially since it hardly actually did anything for any sensible reason. [20:23:34] [discord] Right now he is illogical, we don't need to elevate to outright abuse unless he continues failing to communicate in any way. [20:23:59] [discord] He did screw up a page however. Not enough to enforce an indefinite block on the minimal damage made. [20:24:11] [discord] What page did he screw with? [20:24:28] [discord] Disney's business practices, from what I can see. [20:24:35] [discord] I'm curious how the original block was made in the first place, which has a crappy reason provided that doesn't show much better antics from the blocking user. [20:25:21] [discord] what was the sitewide block even for [20:25:57] [discord] I'm just trying to get how it went from person in reasonable local standing went to a weird local one page block reason to a baffling alt and sitewide escalation [20:25:58] [discord] The sitewide block was for him attempting to create an account to possibly go around that partial block. [20:26:25] [discord] But I could reverse it to a partial block. [20:27:31] [discord] I don't really believe in 'possibly', ideally people who especially aren't marked as long term abuse should be given a little more rope before getting slammed for actions that you now can only speculate may have happened, instead of using as evidence for what did [20:27:42] [discord] one of the things the other account did was the stupid malformed rfa on meta again [20:29:10] [discord] Yes. What SonicFTW did was pretty small, but not enough to warrant a long-term abuse block. I mean, he's made questionable edits. [20:30:03] [discord] so let's push the issue locally and see if those aspects can be curbed, but carefully [20:30:19] [discord] for me I want evidence that he actually takes advisories and is willing to be responsive [20:30:52] [discord] Right. Going forward, I'd suggest that SonicFTW be a bit more careful in terms of alternate accounts (or sockpuppetry). [20:31:27] [discord] Feel free to drop a supplementary local notice so he has more go go on. [20:31:33] [discord] Feel free to drop a supplementary local notice so he has more to go on. (edited) [20:31:43] [discord] I will when I get home as I am currently on mobile. [22:12:10] [discord] [[Special:CentralAuth/Ayato1312]] [[Special:CentralAuth/Lamorgxn]] @raidarr I have a feeling that these 2 accounts are the same person, mainly because of them randomly inserting in their "glub" or "guppy" nonsense into pages. Here are the diffs that can prove it. [22:12:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Ayato1312 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Lamorgxn [22:12:12] [discord] https://www.lgbtqia.wiki/w/index.php?title=Bi-Lesbian&diff=prev&oldid=190509 (Lamorgxn) [22:12:13] [discord] [22:12:13] [url] Difference between revisions of "Bi-Lesbian" - LGBTA+ Wiki | www.lgbtqia.wiki [22:12:14] [discord] https://www.lgbtqia.wiki/w/index.php?title=Bi-Lesbian&diff=prev&oldid=190508&diffmode=source [22:12:16] [discord] https://www.lgbtqia.wiki/w/index.php?title=Bi-Lesbian&diff=prev&oldid=190511 [22:12:17] [url] Difference between revisions of "Bi-Lesbian" - LGBTA+ Wiki | www.lgbtqia.wiki [22:12:17] [discord] https://www.lgbtqia.wiki/w/index.php?title=Bi-Lesbian&diff=prev&oldid=190510 (Ayato1312) [22:12:17] [url] Difference between revisions of "Bi-Lesbian" - LGBTA+ Wiki | www.lgbtqia.wiki [22:12:18] [url] Difference between revisions of "Bi-Lesbian" - LGBTA+ Wiki | www.lgbtqia.wiki [22:12:18] [discord] [22:12:20] [discord] I'd zero in on the glub nonsense they've inserted into pages whether it'd be through edits or the edit-summaries. [22:12:21] [discord] [22:12:22] [url] Global account information for Ayato1312 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [22:12:22] [discord] [22:12:23] [url] Global account information for Lamorgxn - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [22:15:03] [discord] If another Steward would like to do a CU on those 2 accounts I listed in the report I added a few minutes ago, please go on ahead.