[13:53:46] [1/4] I am not so familiar with the way one seeks out forking. [13:53:46] [2/4] But I have the Idea that Many of the pages on this wiki are trying to copy pages concerning Abkhazia from WIkipedia and rewrite them from a non neutral point of view. [13:53:46] [3/4] How do you guys go about that? [13:53:47] [4/4] https://betternames.miraheze.org/wiki/Abkhazia [13:54:17] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abkhazia [14:37:39] @CVT ^ [15:51:58] @.pizzetta. what are the issues you're encountering? [15:52:17] we're trying to figure out this thing together [15:52:26] https://wikicord.miraheze.org/wiki/Speciale:Registri/block [15:52:31] The blocks here? [15:52:34] we want to know if the site is private or public [15:52:35] <.pizzetta., replying to brandon.wm> The owner of the wiki Ropentiumal Filitrus banned @sun_0459 for personal disputes [15:52:46] Just go to the site [15:52:48] Ok [15:52:50] If you can’t view it [15:52:51] You’re going to have to elaborate a bit more [15:52:52] It’s private [15:52:59] The main page is public always [15:53:08] Exactly. [15:53:09] @.pizzetta. will tell the situation [15:53:29] <.pizzetta., replying to pixldev> So it's private [15:53:38] <.pizzetta.> And the owner can block any user? [15:53:56] We are talking about wikicord? [15:54:00] <.pizzetta.> Yes [15:54:00] yes [15:54:18] Let me take a look [15:54:27] Any wiki can be made private by someone with access to ManageWiki at any time [15:54:41] It’s public [15:54:48] <.pizzetta., replying to brandon.wm> I cannot modify it [15:54:54] [[mh:wikicord:Special:ManageWiki]] [15:54:54] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/wikicord:Special:ManageWiki [15:54:55]

[15:55:09] i've checked this but i cant see if it's public or not [15:55:13] Bureaucrats should be able to [15:55:13] You’re not a crat probably [15:55:15] thanks for the info [15:55:22] This is not a private wiki, no [15:55:23] ..thats cause it’s the wrong link [15:55:27] <.pizzetta., replying to pixldev> We are admins [15:55:30] https://wikicord.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/core [15:55:39] Admins ≠ crats [15:55:40] i went to that page [15:55:42] not a link [15:55:49] No I sent the wrong link [15:55:53] oh k [15:55:53] <.pizzetta., replying to pixldev> Ok [15:56:01] Ok [15:56:05] Privato is untucked [15:56:11] Hence [15:56:12] Public [15:56:26] Let’s try to unroll this one by one. Firstly, who is the complaint against? [15:56:33] <.pizzetta.> So what should we do if the owner has blocked an user for no valid reason? [15:56:37] Secondly, what have they been doing to warrant that complaint? [15:56:45] Just answer my questions right now [15:56:52] I’m trying to gather information [15:57:00] <.pizzetta., replying to brandon.wm> User:Ropentiumal Filitrus [15:57:10] Thank you - and why? [15:57:26] no è il contrario [15:57:47] <.pizzetta., replying to brandon.wm> He blocked (LMWIU)Mr.Flame for no valid reason [15:57:53] Noting the user is also a crat [15:58:10] Have you tried to talk with them about the block? [15:58:18] yes [15:58:28] we have discussed for long in the discord server [15:58:33] <.pizzetta., replying to brandon.wm> Yes, I have, but he isn't active [15:58:46] Só ghosted you( [15:59:02] <.pizzetta., replying to pixldev> Basically ghosted everyone on Discord [15:59:06] <.pizzetta.> Yes [15:59:20] Have you tried on their talk page? [15:59:29] <.pizzetta., replying to pixldev> No [15:59:39] Was there any build up or context to this block? [15:59:58] <.pizzetta., replying to pixldev> @sun_0459 you may explain [16:00:03] basically @sun_0459 discord server was raided by Ropentiumal [16:00:10] <.pizzetta.> Yes [16:00:11] sunflame is the one who got blocked [16:00:11] Raided in what sense? [16:00:19] flooded chats [16:00:31] <.pizzetta., replying to brandon.wm> He spammed and deleted messages [16:00:36] Bunch of users spam joins and make a ruckus I think [16:01:14] Well, is he active and ignoring you or inactive and just….insctive [16:01:14] <.pizzetta., replying to pixldev> No just Ropentiumal [16:01:14] So he has permissions on that server oh never mind [16:01:14] <.pizzetta., replying to brandon.wm> He's inactive in general [16:01:14] and ropentiumal decided to block him on wikicord probably because he thought sunflame may want to do something against [16:01:15] <.pizzetta.> But of course he's not answering [16:01:18] <.pizzetta.> To me [16:01:25] Then I don’t see a particular reason to not just try and contact him from a different means [16:01:39] Só the blocker was the raider on discord? [16:01:45] 3 days ago the owner of Wikicord spammed several messages in my Discord server without any reason. [16:01:46] yes [16:01:49] If he’s active on-wiki, leave a message on his talk page. If he doesn’t respond, or blocks you, voila [16:01:55] <.pizzetta., replying to pixldev> Yes, who is also the owner of the wiki [16:01:59] And the blocked person was [16:02:09] @sun_0459 [16:02:14] Wikis have no owners. They have crats who can manage it [16:02:32] <.pizzetta., replying to brandon.wm> We can try [16:02:45] yea we mean he created it [16:02:46] The following day in the general chat of the “Wikicord” Discord server he mentioned me writing “I see your server is failing miserably”. [16:02:46] <.pizzetta.> But I don't think he's active on Wikicord either [16:02:51] The following day in the general chat of the “Wikicord” Discord server he mentioned me writing “I see your server is failing miserably” [16:02:58] Founder would be the appropriate term I think [16:02:59] a sort of owner [16:03:32] yes ropentiumal humiliated sunflame [16:03:33] <.pizzetta., replying to .pizzetta.> Because User:Carnideus Nerva 939 damaged the site and he didn't do anything to stop hom [16:03:39] Also on the same day, in the morning, he blocked me on Wikicord without valid justification. [16:03:45] I’m confused - if he isn’t active, how was there a block? [16:03:57] <.pizzetta., replying to brandon.wm> He blocked him yesterday [16:03:57] he mean he isnt active this day [16:03:57] And why can’t you just unblock [16:04:05] <.pizzetta., replying to brandon.wm> I did [16:04:05] the fact happened yesterday [16:04:21] No,three days ago. [16:04:39] So you did nothing to directly provoke them? apologies if I’m getting mixed up [16:05:00] yes until yesterday [16:05:15] <.pizzetta., replying to sun_0459> It hasn't happened today anyway, when he isn't active [16:05:17] No, I didn't provoke him. [16:05:38] So they just picked you randomly [16:05:49] Exactly. [16:05:54] no, ropentiumal just did it for personal fun [16:06:17] One person, please see DMs - this is difficult enough without 5 voices trying to provide their 2c. [16:06:36] <.pizzetta.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1229100503833641051/Screenshot_2024-04-14-18-06-05-58_e4424258c8b8649f6e67d283a50a2cbc.jpg?ex=662e740b&is=661bff0b&hm=e6bd2f8351e885e77516b29b2b0721ad239ca0025f1fc047ee9baf819c57a2a2& [16:06:44] @sun_0459 for the above^ [16:06:45] blocchi means blocks [16:07:25] Interesting. There’s another crat on the wiki who’s blocked [16:07:27] the reason is for broken relationship and arguments [16:07:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1229100762152304641/903F56A0-307C-4BDD-89EB-E4F5043FA79D.jpg?ex=662e7449&is=661bff49&hm=42746141d1cdea46448cea51c23c98ef1a955ebb46d9cb597f6b608cbf08f726& [16:07:54] <.pizzetta.> Narrative fallacies [16:08:42] <.pizzetta.> I'm sorry for my bad English but we're Italians [16:08:53] That’s fine [16:08:54] basically arguments [16:11:12] so what will happen? [16:11:53] Brandon is currently trying to sort this out in DMs [16:12:09] ok [16:12:20] <.pizzetta., replying to pixldev> Who's he talking to? [16:12:20] If we see any potential violations of Miraheze policy [16:12:37] Rest assured Stewards will be brought in to resolve the issue [16:12:44] <.pizzetta.> Thanks [16:12:48] alright [16:12:58] Sun I believe [16:13:02] A Miraheze wiki admin can ban anyone globally with absolute rights? [16:13:04] That would be horrible. [16:13:12] No [16:13:22] But Brandon is out right now so just need to be patient [16:13:23] yes sunflame [16:13:35] Ohh okay [16:14:07] <.pizzetta., replying to pixldev> You can also contact etrurian_ropentiumallo if he answers to you [16:14:23] <.pizzetta.> Or @corda_ropentiumal [16:14:56] I’d recommend you try contacting the admin on their talk page [16:15:23] <.pizzetta.> Ok [16:25:26] <.pizzetta.> I tried to contact him on Wikicord and on Telegram too. Maybe he can come in this server so we can sort this thing out. [16:27:38] <.pizzetta.> [1/2] I send this to prove that I tried to contact him earlier [16:27:38] <.pizzetta.> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1229105796768333904/Screenshot_2024-04-14-18-26-56-01_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=662e78f9&is=661c03f9&hm=42b4e9eca7bd07de2004ae8f8e7e057ec9f271da5c821aee7bcde58972317c03& [16:27:57] This is something likely best to be resolve within the wiki local community [16:28:20] <.pizzetta., replying to .pizzetta.> Basically I told him that the block seemed unnecessary [16:28:43] We’re here to help out and resolve any potential violations of our polices. [16:31:14] Mandami la chat intera in dm. [16:31:17] Ovviamente se vuoi. [16:31:35] <.pizzetta., replying to sun_0459> Gli ho solo detto di andare su Discord [16:31:41] <.pizzetta.> E lui non ha ancira risposto [16:31:50] Scrivigli su Discord. [16:32:22] <.pizzetta., replying to sun_0459> Beh l'ho già fatto [16:32:31] <.pizzetta.> Comunque ha caricatk un video sulla LATTI [16:32:37] Ti ha risposto? [16:32:39] drpizza wrote on ropentiumal's discussion page in case he's active there [16:32:52] Mandamelo in dm. [16:32:53] 10 mins ago [16:32:54] Thank you. [16:33:18] @.pizzetta. [16:34:03] Aspe,intendi Rope? [16:34:09] <.pizzetta.> Sisi [16:34:58] <.pizzetta.> Ho scritto un commento ma non lo vedo più [16:35:00] <.pizzetta.> Boh [16:41:54] <.pizzetta.> @pixldev idk he seems active because he published a video and was typing something but he isn't answering [16:42:44] he published a video on youtube [16:43:17] we're watching it because he's just sent it [16:43:25] <.pizzetta.> I tried to add a comment to the video but it disappeared, don't know if it's an error of it was deleted [16:43:40] If he isn’t going to respond nothing can be done about that. We can’t force them. Need to work around it. [16:43:49] in this moment i heard that he raided sunflame's discord server because it was bad [16:43:53] <.pizzetta., replying to pixldev> I understand [16:44:17] <.pizzetta., replying to yvinciy> He basically said it was a joke [16:44:26] <.pizzetta.> But the raid was real, joke or not [16:44:48] and he brought the thing on wikicord [16:48:21] [1/2] @sun_0459 @.pizzetta. and @yvinciy : [16:48:21] [2/2] Based on the information provided to me, please file a report on [[SR]]. A Steward will review and determine next steps. [16:48:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR [16:48:22]

[16:48:34] ok [16:48:38] Also courtesy pinging @Stewards to review in case an SR task is too bureaucratic [16:48:49] alright thanks [16:49:05] Best of luck resolving the situation. [16:49:23] ([[SR/M]] likely [16:49:23] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/M [16:49:24]

[16:49:51] so i have to click on wiki reports? [16:51:28] nvm [16:51:31] i got it+ [16:51:50] @.pizzetta. @sun_0459 spiegherò io la situazione [16:52:01] <.pizzetta., replying to yvinciy> Ok [16:52:02] (i said I'll explain the situation) [16:55:05] Let us know if anything else pops up [16:56:25] <.pizzetta.> For now nothing [16:57:13] im writing [16:57:29] lo vedrai sotto [16:57:39] perchè stanno prima quelle vecchie [17:04:35] done [17:06:05] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Wiki_reports [17:10:28] <.pizzetta., replying to yvinciy> Firmati [17:10:34] ok [17:10:39] <.pizzetta.> Scrivi [17:13:42] <.pizzetta.> @yvinciy devi mettere [17:13:48] <.pizzetta.> La firma si fa così [17:13:54] vabbè ormai [17:32:34] i noticed a steward wrote the status of the report [17:32:55] but hasn't responded [17:33:05] <.pizzetta.> @yvinciy mi ha chiesto "confirmation code" per creare la mia pagina utente [17:33:08] <.pizzetta.> Come hai fatto tu? [17:33:13] non lo so [17:34:24] <.pizzetta.> AHH forse è la verifica in due passaggi [17:35:15] <.pizzetta.> No non è quello [17:36:55] he's probably checking the site [17:48:56] The user who added the status indication is not a Steward; they are a regular volunteer [17:49:43] ok [21:23:46] [1/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/RJWIKICREATOR [21:23:46] [2/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/RJWIKICREATOR120 [21:23:47] [3/3] Possible Username Policy violations (potential for being confused for a wiki creator) [21:34:04] It wasn't me, even though those are my Initials RodeJong Wiki Creator 😛 [21:37:46] Oh so do you not consider the D in your initials? [21:39:17] nope. [21:39:54] it's like "Ro the Young" (that's what it translates) [21:40:06] the is just an in between word here [21:40:39] [1/2] Ro de Jong [21:40:39] [2/2] de Jong is the most common last name in the Netherlands [21:41:44]