[01:08:13] https://amazingyoutubers.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Necoarcfan33 check if LTA, and global lock if so, also pinging @tali64 to unblock if it's a FP [01:11:56] also lock for vandalism only https://opposingfork.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bucas [01:15:43] That account is most likely not a false positive; I just took a close look at their flagged contributions and they share many characteristics as previous Roley socks [01:15:50] got it [01:15:59] @CVT https://amazingyoutubers.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Necoarcfan33 lock for LTA, roley [01:25:52] [1/3] Can we global block this editor for hate speech? [01:25:52] [2/3] [01:25:53] [3/3] [01:27:46] I remembered to approve the edit this time for proof. X) Instead of just relying on the mod queue [01:30:40] Looking at the user's contributions, there doesn't appear to be any hate speech involved (simply saying "i hate gay people" is an opinion, a controversial one since some agree and some disagree with it; it may also be construed as simple vandalism, considering that it was posted to a wiki about the LGBTQ+ community) [01:31:35] [1/2] Oh sorry, I was just going off the Content Policy `No spreading insults, hate, or rumors; or promoting violence or harassment against a person or group of people. ... Exceptions for comedy and satire do not cover language which promotes violence or hatred against people or groups of people based on factors such as physical appearance, ethnicity, race, religion (or lack thereof), cultu [01:31:36] [2/2] re, caste, social class, sexual orientation, gender, sex, disability, age, nationality, mental or physical disability, or other marginalized groups.` [01:32:29] IMO it seems like trolling [01:33:11] From a CVT perspective I'd see this as trolling [01:33:22] Potentially hate speech if there's a pattern [01:33:41] But if it's a one off I'd just revert and leave, albeit keep an eye on it [01:33:47] I can see why you may have interpreted the page as hate speech; if the statement were something like "i hate faggots", that would definitely violate that clause of the Content Policy, but "i hate gay people" is a gray area since it's a legitimate opinion [01:34:02] Trolling is definitely a possibility [01:34:13] https://lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Special:Log/Kibyballs there's more than one off when you count deleted contribs [01:34:27] Then yes I'd block [01:34:46] I would not see "I hate gay people" as a legitimate opinion, IMO [01:34:46] Oh yeah I somehow forgot about those, despite their weirdness lol [01:34:56] You could really interpret any "I hate [x group]" in any wording as just an opinion unless it's actually calling for explicit violence or is a threat, I don't think there's ever been much of this happening [01:35:05] That would be explicit discrimination against a protected group which in this case, is hate speech. [01:35:05] Yeah [01:35:09] Yea [01:35:38] That's how I see it too personally. ^^ Something can be both an opinion and discriminatory. [01:35:47] Yea [01:35:59] it's an opinion that doesn't really have any valid reason to be said honestly [01:36:04] mhm [01:38:11] [1/8] I do think hate speech will always be a gray area (not saying I oppose forbidding it, just that there's a gray area) [01:38:11] [2/8] Is supporting Autism Speaks hate speech/ableism? [01:38:11] [3/8] Is claiming that drag is inappropriate for children hate speech? [01:38:12] [4/8] Is claiming that homosexuality is a sin without outright condemning homosexuality or condemning sinful behavior hate speech? [01:38:12] [5/8] Is claiming that homosexuality is unnatural/unhealthy/dangerous hate speech? [01:38:12] [6/8] Is calling someone a "sped kid" (special education) hate speech/ableism? [01:38:13] [7/8] Is calling people who kill themselves "weak" or "selfish" hate speech? [01:38:13] [8/8] And if we're really going to want to extend "mental or physical disability", is discrimination against paraphilic disorders hate speech? [01:38:50] Yeah, in this case I deemed it hate speech cause they literally use the word "hate" XD But maybe my understanding of hate speech is incorrect there... [01:38:55] Yea [01:38:57] I'm not saying you're wrong lol [01:39:06] Hate speech very rarely comes up on MH so there are differing opinions on it [01:39:15] I totally understand the greyness of it all though. :) [01:39:18] Yea [01:40:18] IIRC hate speech was forbidden by an RfC when overhauling harassment and conduct policies because it just seemed like common sense to forbid hate speech, I do not know when it became first forbidden and if it was forbidden before that [01:42:30] Prohibitions on hate speech were creates by an RfC passed in July 2020 in response to the creation of the Bad Scratch Wiki; [[Requests for Comment/Prohibit hate-based wikis]] I believe is its nane [01:42:30] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Prohibit_hate-based_wikis [01:42:30] [01:42:57] Ah I see [01:45:04] https://animebaths.miraheze.org/wiki/Takarakuji_de_40-oku_Atattandakedo_Isekai_ni_Ijuu_Suru [01:45:56] The comment in question on LGBT wiki is a policy violation given context and will be actioned as such [01:46:00] Alr [01:46:10] ^ [01:49:07] Global locked, thanks for the report. [01:50:21] The context of posting this on a wiki devoted to LGBTQIA identities, along with creating a few mocking pages re: gender identity does make this a conduct policy violation + vandalism meriting enforcement [01:50:41] Thank you kindly!! [01:50:56] Will note [01:51:13] Could you also delete https://animebaths.miraheze.org/wiki/Takarakuji_de_40-oku_Atattandakedo_Isekai_ni_Ijuu_Suru for spam, global lock https://amazingyoutubers.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Necoarcfan33 for LTA, and global lock https://opposingfork.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bucas for vandalism only [01:51:52] heh @Global Sysops has no impact [01:52:04] I am away for evening, no time to assist on this unfortunately [01:52:07] alr [01:52:14] wow that's unreadable, hang on [01:52:28] [1/2] yeah [01:52:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1235770927137034354/image.png?ex=663594dc&is=6634435c&hm=e96a86bf49b31e76ef32755bab07ca00254ab35e69f09c339f1c6cdf89a819ae& [01:52:55] is this better [01:53:11] Looks goo [01:53:30] [1/2] Although to be fair I have a custom background so it looks different on my end [01:53:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1235771184768090162/image.png?ex=66359519&is=66344399&hm=c0785fdf5728ce5ad9d12da603f48cd524da1fbdc9c006a01e5f60e460e8af67& [01:53:51] it looks better but still a tiny bit off [01:54:39] though I guess pinging us doesn't really do much [01:55:23] https://hoi4mods.miraheze.org/wiki/Hoi4Mods:Contact?oldid=9493 page blanked since then but remove for spam [04:32:51] [1/5] @CVT [04:32:51] [2/5] delete https://animebaths.miraheze.org/wiki/Takarakuji_de_40-oku_Atattandakedo_Isekai_ni_Ijuu_Suru for spam [04:32:51] [3/5] global lock https://amazingyoutubers.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Necoarcfan33 for LTA [04:32:52] [4/5] global lock https://opposingfork.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bucas for vandalism only [04:32:52] [5/5] delete https://hoi4mods.miraheze.org/wiki/Hoi4Mods:Contact?oldid=9493 for spam (spam was blanked from page in latest revision but it was created by a spambot just for the purpose of spamming) [04:36:27] also delete for spam https://privacywiki.xyz/wiki/User:CharityKrimper4/sandbox [04:41:04] UP vio and vandalism https://greglore.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/RetardedN-ggerf-ggot [04:59:24] animebath and amazingyoutubers seem to get hit often i'm seeing [06:39:59] re Bucas there's not really a need for a global lock if they've just vandalized a single wiki and they've been locally handled [06:40:07] Alr [10:57:15] Hello,May I ask some question? [10:58:53] A user disclosed something that looks like a password on wikis(but now,these wikis were already closed) [10:59:03] Is it ok? [11:00:17] If you have time,Please answer this question. [11:00:20] Thank you. [12:18:35] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/FukkBuddy01 - probable UP violation [14:39:26] If wikis are closed, probably ok but likely needs global lock to prevent misuse. [16:42:42] If the user is still active, they should reset their password at first opportunity. If this has already been done, no further action is needed. [20:59:22] [1/2] @m3w @notaracham [20:59:22] [2/2] I appreciate your answer. [20:59:38] Thanks. [21:03:11] [1/2] By the way,A user is [[user:Html123456]]. [21:03:11] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/user:Html123456 [21:03:12] [2/2] He disclosed his answer on arashi.miraheze.org and jawp2ch.miraheze.org [21:03:13] [21:04:09] both are deleted [21:05:32] Yes,and global lock request is rejected by 1108-Kiju because the password looks joke. [21:10:26] The first instance looked like a joke and was real [21:13:03] what should do I? [21:14:20] do it need global lock? [21:18:52] what should be done is global lock the account on suspicion of compromised account and wait for actual user to complain via contact method [21:19:47] thanks. [21:59:44] M3w, please don't advise folks on how MH functionaries should proceed. This isn't a case of a hijacked account, but HTML123456 should reset their password. If any untoward behavior that suggests compromise is seen then yes, they should be locked. [22:14:10] fine, follow your standard procedures though to me seems lacking