[01:25:15] https://cheeseepedia.org/wiki/Talk:Studio_C_Beta?diff=prev&oldid=33071 - Not quite sure what to make of this situation [02:30:39] @Meta Administrators https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:EmicraftNoob/Stupid_Shit - gibberish and borderline vandalism created by translator in userspace; not quite sure if this warrants deletion [04:09:42] @Stewards still continuing now [04:28:07] @CVT https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/I_have_no_enemies - likely troll/vandalism-only account [04:28:27] Also see ^ [04:32:52] meta admin to do anything? [04:33:01] or is this a lock n' CU type deal [04:34:39] In relation to the Japanese vandal, a block on Meta would be appropriate considering they've just began to edit there; also would like opinion on https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:EmicraftNoob/Stupid_Shit (it's blatant gibberish, but it's in userspace so I'm not quite sure if it warrants deletion) [04:34:58] Have forwarded the latter to Meta sysops for review [04:35:06] Investigating the foremr [08:00:50] it is not vandalism [08:00:52] it is in userspace [08:01:08] Posting gibberish in your own userspace isn't vandalism [08:01:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1245285854243454977/image.png?ex=66583253&is=6656e0d3&hm=a1187ba41a914309299a81b043b8dc77f64f01b36b6bb286635bd297ecb1f7c9& [08:01:28] there is no vandalism here, it is their own userspace [08:06:34] "It's in their own userspace" can only be taken so far before it no longer applies. While Meta allows users to post things that aren't explicitly related to its purpose, we have to draw the line somewhere; if a new user were to post something similar in their userspace, it would be deleted and the user would be warned [08:06:53] [1/2] > if a new user were to post something similar in their userspace, it would be deleted and the user would be warned [08:06:53] [2/2] no they wouldn't [08:07:07] and we do not need to draw the line at a subpage of your user page being keyboard spam [08:14:43] [1/2] At some point, allowing anything in userspace will become more of a burden than anything; hypothetically, a user would be able to argue that one of their subpages is permissible on the grounds that the above userpage was not deleted, so I think it's better to err on the side of deleting it, though whether it'll be deleted is up to the decision that Meta admins m [08:14:43] [2/2] ake [08:16:35] This is just the slippery slope fallacy; the above userpage not being deleted would not justify creating whatever someone wants in userspace, and instead only creating keyboard spam in userspace, which unless it gets to the point of flooding recent changes (which it has not and probably won't), isn't really disruptive. [08:19:36] The issue really is that there's no well-defined policy on Meta userpages; unless that is fixed, this issue will persist no matter how relevant it is, and it would be beneficial to introduce such a policy on Meta [08:20:10] that is true [08:20:30] feel free to open an RfF on meta userpage policy if you want lol , i personally don't think it's likely that it will be a repeated issue but having clearly defined policies would be fine [09:01:51] [1/2] There is actually a Meta convention endorsed by the community regarding this: [09:01:51] [2/2] "Other users' userpages should not generally be edited without their prior consent, notwithstanding the usual exceptions that include ... generally considered to be offensive or inappropriate for a user page, is either blatant vandalism or patent nonsense/gibberish" [09:01:55] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Endorsement_of_Meta_conventions#Proposal_3:_Editing_other_users'_user_pages [09:02:14] per that convention that was endorsed by the community, I'll be deleting the page [09:04:45] Meta isn't a sandbox wiki, if people want to insert nonsense they can do it on TestWiki but otherwise Meta (or Miraheze for that matter) isn't meant for it, regardless of whether it's in ones userpage or not. Even if there is some leeway we don't treat userpages as fully "private spaces" where users can do whatever they want [09:15:49] hmm ok [12:21:47] [[Special:CentralAuth/チピチピチャパチャパ]] @CVT Something's going on here. [12:21:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/%e3%83%81%e3%83%94%e3%83%81%e3%83%94%e3%83%81%e3%83%a3%e3%83%91%e3%83%81%e3%83%a3%e3%83%91 [12:21:47] [12:25:55] yes... reported 3 times [13:31:16] hit as voa, can check later if there is a repeat but limited time to proactively investigate for the immediate future [16:09:38] If there's anything they did that hasn't been reverted feel free to revert [16:09:49] I had started reverting then got tired [16:10:20] Rangeblock done, but that's as much as I can do today [16:10:44] Thanks