[10:59:10] [1/5] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:McGee [10:59:10] [2/5] It's a userpage which seems a bit weird. Is this allowed? [10:59:11] [3/5] ```McGee (born February 10, 1948 - December 13, 1999), born Huseyn Magomedaliyev, is a Chechen-born Bosnian warlord and military leader involved in the Chechen and Yugoslav Wars. He was captured by Srpskan forces in November 1998, and executed on January 13, 1999, in Rogoušići, Bosnia, outside of Sarajevo. During his capture, the only website found on his hard-drive was Miraheze.org [10:59:11] [4/5] . [10:59:11] [5/5] This is all true.``` [10:59:33] At least it is funny 😄 [11:00:14] I mean it appears to be obviously satirical, but I’ll look more in a bit [11:02:05] I don't see why not [11:03:41] It looks like a wikipedia page, which normally gets removed. But as it is satirical I wasn't sure. [11:07:10] Yeah I agree with Raidarr here, I'm not seeing any reason to remove it, and based on a quick google search I'm not seeing anything that shows that it could be referring to an actual person [11:08:20] Thanks for the clarification you both [11:08:23] a wikipedia page is an actual wikipedia page probably including gnarly sourcing and junk and is copied over [11:08:57] even if that was a snippet, a single paragraph probably illustrates more of a point than just slapping in a random wp page, which above all is a bit of a spam warning [11:09:20] got it. Thanks [11:09:49] and we have the precedence now to not take that wp statement too quickly given the recent dispute over pages in userspace... [11:10:18] Those were about subpages. [11:10:47] [1/2] a counter essay immediately popped in my head [11:10:47] [2/2] [11:10:59] effective title "honestly just use whatever, just think about it first" [11:11:56] there is truth that another option is usually better than common.css [11:12:20] but I've seen enough wikis building around one skin exclusively, and few people who like to actively force some other preference [11:14:37] [1/2] The difference here is that this is meant to improve the community, which I strongly belief is the purpose for META. [11:14:38] [2/2] My feeling in that discussion was that anything not related to META shouldn't be on META. But as I am in the minority, I have to accept that those user pages can be used for whatever. [11:15:44] But the main userpage is something that should only be used to explain who someone is [11:16:20] Or that has info for use on Meta like templates, tips, etc [11:17:07] [1/2] in a community of small size (for actual engagement), limited participation and even with our restrictions a nigh infinite range of communities (from wikipedia seriousness to straight up polandball), it is not feasible to enforce too strict a standard there. As it is we go to some length like no meme channel or stuff like that equivalent on meta but if userspace is not harming anyon [11:17:07] [2/2] e and not excessive then what does it matter [11:17:22] meta is as much a community hub, so I would hope, as it is a documentation/functional community [11:18:02] pulling teeth over somewhat silly userpages or personal utility not done in excess is a step towards discouraging the very ill participation we do have in the central area, which does not and cannot be equated to say, wikipedia [11:19:31] much as I'd prefer people focus on meta or globally useful stuff, or keep their userpages more utilitarian, I'd rather something like the above userpage than when people were importing templates just to import them which technically fit the purpose of meta but brought unnecessary enwiki mess into the structure [11:19:52] practical disruption being the line I concern with there [11:20:57] Most create an account, put something on their, and never be seen again. Then I think it's a misuse. But Okay, I'll accept it [11:26:28] if they are using their global account (or at least intend to) and their userpage is on the central wiki, even though loginwiki is probably best it's still a reasonable introduction to themselves in meta's centermost community though it might not be entirely serious (just going from the original example) [11:26:56] extending beyond that ie pages in the userspace may have less of a niche utility but again, it becomes what is worth really policing [11:27:18] in the end I would rather focus on welcoming (excluding the worst elements) than enforcing conformity [19:04:56] Seconded. Userspace largely isn't worth policing unless it's an actual content or conduct violation. [19:06:05] If folks want to introduce themselves as a recipe for corned beef hash, that's their (very strange) perogative. [23:36:42] I have to think about that. Dutch flying Pancake? Whahaha