[02:18:47] [1/2] Perhaps a good idea to delete all these pages: [02:18:47] [2/2] https://login.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/ThatRobloxianuser2K6 [08:10:23] <_arawynn> [1/2] I have no idea what that code means. I added my 2 cents using the Visual Editor and edited like 2 or times to fix a spelling mistake and to add a link to my name/profile. First connected and suggested link lead to a not existing page so I changed that again to link to user:Arawynn. [08:10:23] <_arawynn> [2/2] If I messed something up, it was an accident on my part [08:12:41] <_arawynn, replying to rodejong> [1/2] I have no idea what that code means. I added my 2 cents using the Visual Editor and edited like 2 or times to fix a spelling mistake and to add a link to my name/profile. First connected and suggested link lead to a not existing page so I changed that again to link to user:Arawynn. [08:12:41] <_arawynn, replying to rodejong> [2/2] If I messed something up, it was an accident on my part most likely from not knowing anyting about coding. [08:18:42] That's weird if 2 users have managed the error [08:19:08] I have no idea why VE would randomly do it [08:19:24] VE isn't really made for editing things like RfCs though [08:57:30] <_arawynn> So next time no VE, noted. A guide for RfC like mentioned in #general would probably be useful 😅 [09:12:35] Yeah! I apologise for my presumption. I just thought it strange that two users made the same kind of edit and thought it was vandalism. I am also very bad at remembering names, so my apologies for making a mess where there was none. [09:13:32] Haven't seen that before either. [09:13:58] Ye it's a new one [09:38:21] so rfcs aren't made to be intuitively edited [09:38:32] we could really use a discussions system on mediawiki that is not garbage in one form or another [09:39:22] [1/2] I guess I'm still hung up on fanonpedia permissions because now I really want to know what happened here [09:39:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1329746882850721903/image.png?ex=678b76ca&is=678a254a&hm=dd606ec92e1f6c6984f4ad697e3dd387546afaebe41d94a7087a4fd00613117e& [09:39:47] bzpn promotes himself out of nothing to a handful of rights, then ???, then straight into basically bureaucrat [09:40:32] VE isn't made for talk pages which is effectively what an RfC is [09:40:42] Supposedly that's DiscussionTools [09:40:49] Although there's work that can be done [09:40:52] DiscussionTools is primitive and inadequate [09:40:58] not unlike visualeditor [09:41:17] the one good thing they had which I think was structured discussions that worked more intuitively, they murdered [09:41:30] I say that from an end user perspective, not a design one [09:43:47] Ye but what was okay for users was terrible from my every other perspective [09:44:05] functioning for users is the point [09:44:16] why can wikispace never seem to manage both [09:44:31] it functions intuitively and it's not a diseased mess [09:53:30] I hated structural discussions with a passion [09:54:19] I don't think that was the best presentation by any means, however it was rather intuitive [09:54:38] I was actually thinking of CSS to revamp it a bit before it just fell out of use/purpose for me [09:54:54] The MediaWiki was made with Source editing in mind. VE was later introduced as people kept complaining that they didn't understand the coding and wanted to edit it as if it was a word document. [09:56:30] and I'll give that visual editing is kind of always annoying, to the degree where even on forums, where they tend to work more as expected (as they're supposed to), there are still quirks and I use source. But that should not be compulsory to 'properly' edit, or rather, just add thoughts to something. [09:57:03] this should probably divert to the OT though that has its own business too [09:58:33] I think it is fine in replying to eachother. But as soon as you enter < >, [ ] or {}, you risk issues. [10:01:52] <_arawynn, replying to rodejong> It's fine, I'd rather know when I messed something up badly on a shared/official page or maybe somebody trying to vandalise using my name [10:02:18] <_arawynn> And I appreciate the apology [13:06:49] He's becoming so powerful, he doesn't even need anyone to give him rights [17:36:56] Today I just dropped by to see what's going on at Miraheze [17:37:01] but I see that I have been thoroughly discussed here [17:37:04] To be clear: I am not a vandal, and I did not expect such unfavorable comments after one abuse on ptw on my part [17:37:13] I "locked" myself on Googlepedia and I'm not leaving there [17:37:41] sometimes I visit fanonpedia to see if everything is ok [17:38:08] sometimes clean up the users and appoint new admins [17:38:29] everything I do now is within the rules [17:39:01] just leave me, and if anyone wants to talk civilly, I'm always available on Googlepedia [17:39:32] I greet you all warmly and wish you all the best [17:39:39] 👋 [18:07:40] What [18:08:27] Wait [18:08:32] I forgot to add that comments like "he won't change" are disgusting, discouraging and create a bad atmosphere [18:08:41] I have never said anything unfavorable/offensive to any of you [18:09:00] Treat me however you want, but without exaggeration [18:09:15] Because that's just rude [18:09:46] Anyone can change, even after massive abuse [18:10:04] I'm working on myself right now, in case anyone hasn't noticed [18:10:15] Wait who are you again? Can't remember the name 🤷🏻‍♂️ [18:10:26] BZPN, jagoda [18:10:38] Ah. okay. [18:10:45] you just remembered me well [18:10:48] But anyway [18:10:53] I'm done here [18:11:01] Best regards again [18:11:06] now I can say goodbye [18:11:13] Bye [18:12:30] I don’t recall any accusations of vandalism from you [18:12:53] (Well, about you [18:15:26] I also can't find any conversations matching what they decided to pop in to mention, my read is that we had questions about the escalating to 'superbureaucrat' and site banner promoting an unrelated wiki [18:16:57] I’m considering making a on local discussion bout that banner [18:17:07] Does fandompedia have a community even [18:18:17] Not in any real sense, it's a minimally engaged project these days [18:18:27] Not worth chasing imo [18:19:45] Hm? [18:23:04] The recent locked user (other CVT discussion) was a frequent contributor to fanonpedia, which is how that came up in the first place [18:23:05] https://tenor.com/view/the-bobs-burgers-the-principle-principle-bob-gif-14334862 [22:40:11] meh, honestly