[06:03:25] [1/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Iuty_and_Cut43 [06:03:25] [2/2] Not sure this contributes to anything, and could be seen as vandalism? [06:03:42] Very loooooooooooooong page [06:14:28] 161k bytes...... [06:22:16] yup [16:04:53] @Global Administrators https://login.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PandaFiredoge [16:05:03] Not sure this is wanted? [16:06:34] I agree with what is being said here 100% [16:06:53] That is a different matter. [16:07:03] Do we want activism on our pages [16:07:33] As long as it's not illegal, absolutely - if the @Board of Directors decides otherwise, then so be it [16:09:03] Next time there comes a lobbyist who wants to abolish green initiatives, or protest against de ICE (US) etc. Where do we draw the line? [16:09:37] We can agree or disagree on the topics, but it's the principle of activism I address [16:09:43] When it violates a policy, which I don't believe at all to be the case here [16:11:44] [1/2] Okay, lets say I make an against proposition and support banning all social media under 16. Which isn't far fetched. [16:11:44] [2/2] You'd have the same opinion? [16:13:18] You and Raidarr are the most liberal, and Hate anything restricting. [16:13:39] (at least that is how I perceive you) [16:14:27] Go for it [16:14:27] You can say you support banning social media for under 16s [16:14:28] That page is also fine [16:14:31] I have no idea how in any way that could violate policies [16:14:39] Yes - even though I don't particularly agree with it, you should still be free to express your opinion [16:15:13] Where do we draw the line then where it is activism concerned? [16:16:06] the law shall be your guide [16:16:14] difference between activism and threats [16:16:38] Pages like these make good ground for toxicity 🤷🏻‍♂️ [16:16:40] The content policy says the things we don't permit [16:16:55] Such as hate speech, illegal stuff [16:17:34] I don't think anything on that page can be said to encourage toxicity [16:21:50] Now that that's been settled, an LTA may have reappeared - https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/MrBrainRotSweeden67 (@Stewards) [16:22:36] first time I see a Board ping [16:24:38] Can you deal with the missing permissions from this morning in #support if you're here [16:33:26] [1/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.21.196.248 [16:33:26] [2/2] Can this IP range be blocked? [16:49:45] I think such content can be considered as spamming. It should be deleted due to out of scope [17:07:38] [1/4] Ruling in steward capacity: [17:07:39] [2/4] While it's not an effective use of user space, it's permitted. [17:07:39] [3/4] (For record, I personally agree the recent online safety laws are badly-constructed. The recent breaches of 'trusted third-party age verification' solutions should give pause to any safety conscious individual.) [17:07:39] [4/4] As long as they are not openly advocating for violence or something unethical where we are obligated to take action, sure, go ahead. [17:55:39] [1/2] I suppose the saying is [17:55:40] [2/2] “If it doesn’t break the rules, go wild” [18:03:32] (Also, I agree with you about the OSA, I believe it’s meant to collect information and invade people’s privacy being masked as “protecting the children”) [18:03:36] Along with his corollary, play stupid games, win stupid prizes [18:04:41] [1/2] Fair enough [18:04:41] [2/2] (Also can you check the steward requests for permissions while you’re here) [18:04:59] Not at desk at the moment, I will take a look in a few [18:06:49] There's one in #support too [18:07:02] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1445302041613434922/1445306830870937711 [18:08:14] Yep, saw that as well, need to finish starting my morning before I can start the day. 😂 [18:09:09] [1/2] My guy needs his daily coffee before starting the day [18:09:09] [2/2] (Who wouldn’t want one?) [18:09:36] (Wait is it he/him or she/her) [18:09:46] Bathed, fed, clothed and caffeinated - not all are required, but they are preferred before looking at wiki things. [18:10:49] Hey if you’re not fed you’re not gonna be able to exist, so it’s an requirement no? [18:14:11] the human body can last months without food [18:14:40] A few months, which isn’t forever, meaning it’s still an requirement [18:51:39] Done [21:07:16] hi [21:07:57] nya~ [23:01:10] [1/2] my opinion is that if it was spamming their viewpoint or openly advocating for violence against people who opposed them then it would definitely be against the content policy, but the page in question is perfectly legal content confined to the user's own page. the line is potentially blurry (e.g. if you're openly supporting transphobes does that count as h [23:01:10] [2/2] ate speech/personal attacks?) but I don't think this particular page is anywhere close to that line [23:03:18] individual wikis obviously would have the right to choose to be more strict than official miraheze wikis if they want [23:17:45] [1/2] Opinion is well and good, but platform policy is stated above by myself and RhinosF1. 🙂 [23:17:45] [2/2] As you rightly call out though, local wikis are free to set stricter policies for local userpages [23:19:15] To answer the blurry hypotheticals, transphobic/anti-trans speech is generally not going to fly. [23:36:18] [1/2] in general the view is to look at what we have actual policy against and work in that framework, rather than find some aspect extra and try to work at it independently. If it's not covered and really should be covered outside being straight up illegal on US/common country shores, and standing policy doesn't really tackle, that could be grounds to review closer. But as known we lean p [23:36:18] [2/2] ermit unless we have clear reason not to permit.