[09:11:42] [1/7] So we've had several persistent IPs that keep trying to create bad pages on our wiki recently. I suspect these IPs are the same person -- is there any way to stop them from editing? [09:11:43] [2/7] [09:11:43] [3/7] [09:11:43] [4/7] [09:11:44] [5/7] [09:11:44] [6/7] [09:11:44] [7/7] [09:24:24] I'm not a part of CVT, though locally you could do a [range block](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Range_blocks). Something like `114.129.4.0/24` would block any IP starting with 114.129.4. [09:38:22] Thanks! I'll give it a shot. [12:09:28] Hi! I need some help with abuse of our page, if possible [12:09:59] [1/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1478726197247742156/image.png?ex=69a97296&is=69a82116&hm=6e8eb6901665bcb28c9c7d53fc545f49a5b9e16a8a3e9f09b97c2e4782947948& [12:09:59] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1478726197826420757/image.png?ex=69a97296&is=69a82116&hm=6cf1597952d91a8b6a21bd7cfaa4a59619b825d0680e16489117f8f6c6e6b155& [12:10:00] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1478726198468284446/image.png?ex=69a97297&is=69a82117&hm=30226c800ab7040d93306d9fe8913b6379ae61d103b04b6ec69b36d5f805a150& [12:10:16] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1478726267304939520/image.png?ex=69a972a7&is=69a82127&hm=887fa893eb9eb18aba7d5ba5bda582c55eae6a18495e31c31bbfdb4199e6e890& [12:10:39] While I keep removing the content, this person keeps adding it back, over and over [12:11:16] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1478726521555386498/image.png?ex=69a972e4&is=69a82164&hm=310aa0c7d51c045c2dd5d0e4dc44057b8d20136cf0939bf51afba170cb1dc797& [12:11:34] https://clt.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [12:12:53] Protect the main page with `Special:ProtectPage` and then block the IP with `Special:Block` [12:13:44] Or turn off IP-editing altogether https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help%3AHow_to_manage_who_can_edit_my_wiki [12:14:24] I dont have administrator perms. Is that required for protecting the page/blocking the IP? [12:14:35] I'm a moderator within the discord [12:19:46] [1/2] I am not the person who added this to our page [12:19:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1478728660394446950/image.png?ex=69a974e2&is=69a82362&hm=dc1aa4ddb4d7ce9973d818983eeba86983594e4e4d46a7a77e3d17d1b4f646cb& [12:19:59] I believe that is required, try asking someone with those rights to protect the main page and block em [12:20:20] That was @bosco9378wiki [12:20:25] They already fixed it [12:20:29] Page is up again [12:20:30] https://clt.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page?oldid=1074 [12:20:40] Hey! Can you unblock me please? [12:21:34] Yeah I think they made a mistake [12:21:54] unblocked, sorry [12:22:20] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1478729307789594644/image.png?ex=69a9757c&is=69a823fc&hm=157e8d9510bffdc59593739abe96916ecc2378eb651b27ac805fbebc2547d216& [12:22:26] Oh, thanks! [12:22:48] Thank you guys, for fixing the issue so fast 👌 [12:23:24] You do need to be an admin on the wiki. You could try to contact one of the wiki bureaucrats/administrators first to see if they can handle it if it happens again. [12:23:44] Fyi the admin on that wiki already protected that page [12:24:25] I tried to contact multiple people, but all offline [12:24:41] Actually it's not protected mb, can edit while logged out [12:24:51] So I can just add the code anywhere in the source? [12:25:01] In case it happens again [12:25:48] Idk what are you talking about but I'll suggest important or high traffic pages should be protected [12:26:33] This code @justanotherdarkmodeuser [12:27:20] I'm no coder, so honestly no idea. But I'll dm the owner of the page to make sure that happens. [12:28:46] [1/2] This is not a code. [12:28:46] [2/2] They meant you going to https://clt.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page/Special:ProtectPage if I am right [12:29:07] But if you're lacking the permissions you won't be able to protect the pages [12:29:33] I see [12:30:12] Everyone is EST, or another US timezone. But I'll be sure to contact them [12:30:24] The protect option, what does it do? [12:30:37] Block all activity, or just filters? [12:30:48] [1/2] I meant this here, should appear under actions [12:30:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1478731435274797117/image0.jpg?ex=69a97777&is=69a825f7&hm=bf0897b5471563c63403eb7b2c3f17c771cbac54861fe40d263aa29e418571c0& [12:31:01] Protects the page to be edited by a certain user group only [12:31:14] Or edited by users with specific perms, like admin [12:31:48] I recommend the page should be protected so only users with admin rights is able to edit on the page [12:32:18] @shadow.06799 did you get it? [12:32:30] I don't have admin rights [12:32:37] It's a fan based Wiki, [12:32:46] But I'm currently contacting people with perms [12:32:59] Making notes of your recommendations [12:33:04] Then you'll have to wait for someone that has the rights to do it, or wait for a bureaucrat to promote you to an admin to do so [12:34:46] Yep. [12:35:09] Is it possible for that person to get another IP adress and get back to editing the page? [12:37:37] [1/2] If they have another wifi, yeah [12:37:38] [2/2] Can't use vpns tho as the stewards blocks open proxies, I don't think they can find a vpn to bypass the blocks placed by stewards [12:38:26] Tho they'll run out of wifi/ips eventually so it makes for a particularly good way to prevent someone from vandaling pages [12:42:14] It definitely possible [12:42:27] We can’t block every possible proxy on the net [12:42:57] True, I think you guys do get the proxies for free vpns tho, that's probably the most important [12:43:24] I don't think some vandal would pay for a vpn to keep vandaling [12:43:54] (Well then again, there exists a vandal that vandaled wikipedia for over 10 years now) [12:45:09] Also why do stewards only ban open proxies for 10 years only and not permanently [12:45:20] I find that to be quite odd [12:48:40] shrug [12:48:46] IPs rotate may haps [12:49:42] I contacted the owner. Told him to lock it to admins only. It's community owned, which turns out, is not the best idea. Anyways, that should do it [12:49:54] Thank you so much for your help 🙏 [12:50:08] Np [12:51:09] Personally community owned is better then corporate owned sometimes (looking at you Fandom), tho this discussion would be best fit in #offtopic [12:51:12] Very disagree on that front but to each their own [12:51:37] There are also ways to prevent abuse without entirely locking a wiki [12:56:58] Yeah no, community owned is better, you guys are right. What I meant is that because of not having administration rights shared with staff from the actual discord, we can't do anything whenever something like this happens [12:58:00] Oh, yeah. My bad. No need for discussion, I agree. It's been a good learning moment. [13:22:10] ip does rotate on occasion yes