[09:28:09] :^) https://youtu.be/GN1WIBkE7Cs [09:28:09] [YouTube] ⁨reasons to love inkster hyung 👆😍⁩ | 59s | Channel: ⁨EijiDoesThings⁩ | 0 views | 2021-07-24 - 09:26:29 [09:54:28] Uhhhh, you do realize that there's no time limit on his hate, right? And let's be honest, we found out he used another account called TZoneM642 to evade locks, and it was behaviorally obvious. [09:54:59] Also, was that supposed to be a joke if you don't mind me asking? [10:13:21] This is cool [10:14:03] Cool in terms of the animations and not the message the video actually passing [11:42:15] I have made a terrible mistake [11:42:37] What? [11:43:01] I don't know when to shut up :p [11:43:43] But it'll be seen anyways if it gets any traction. If not, that works too. [11:58:42] @raidarr I like people that speak their mind and don't try sugercoat things [11:59:02] I am frank to a fault, I guess that is a strength >.> [11:59:08] I tend tol be as well [11:59:25] I told someone to "Shut the hell up!" at lest once [12:00:20] Well, there's frank and there's constructive, and I try not to go on tangents where there aren't good seeds to draw from. [12:00:29] Telling people to shut up tends to make them defensive. [12:24:31] https://socdemwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Golden_Age_of_Capitalism [12:24:32] [url] Golden Age of Capitalism - SocDemWiki | socdemwiki.miraheze.org [12:29:40] Nice to see you continue with social democracy [19:03:02] What do I need for my wiki to grow I must know! [19:03:11] https://fakemediacollabwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [19:03:12] [url] Atrocious nonexistent media Wiki | fakemediacollabwiki.miraheze.org [19:03:18] No one is editing my wiki! [19:08:25] What can I do to help it [19:10:37] get mopre people?.. [19:10:54] Yes! [19:11:44] @LegroomHow do I get people to edit the wiki [19:12:16] show it other people ... [19:12:23] who might be interested [19:15:44] Rome wasn't built over night. Be patient, advertise your wiki in social circles that might like it, let people know about it. [19:16:09] s/that/where/ [19:22:58] Charisma, good structure, good presentation and not a small amount of 'right place right time'. [19:23:23] The topic in particular seems a bit more difficult than usual to draw for even in creative writing circles that I know of, so I certainly don't expect miracles. [19:23:47] Incidentally I still can't get over how I managed to bungle this, [19:23:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/868574197348171786/unknown.png [19:23:53] Then Why do blog post like these exists? [19:24:18] One-offs in a bigger picture will always exist. It's quite another matter to devote a full wiki to an obscure topic. [19:24:37] @Soda11pro! Try the Gazztater of IWkis and adding it trhgere [19:24:51] Oh dear lord, it has the same UI problem [19:24:55] Give me the link [19:25:00] Right, let me just fix your UI with something very basic real quick [19:27:50] @Soda11pro! You could add it here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Gazetteer_of_wikis might get a editor stumble in [19:27:50] [url] Gazetteer of wikis - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:28:21] Or well, there is aways cragslist or even paying the first few writers on Fiverr or Freelancer or Upwork, but that means real money [19:30:16] Well, I thought I had it, but then I see my class selector that worked on QP wikis does not work on the above for whatever reason [19:30:19] Oh wait it's listed! [19:30:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/868575840500322324/unknown.png [19:30:29] Ok [19:31:04] @raidarr How would you make Soda's wiki better? [19:31:50] Steal the css code from my preference sheet that I just edited in [19:33:15] Now I'd steal it, did something wrong and fixed the shading [19:33:29] Raidair { Blillant-ideas 777; good-at-wikis; 888 } [19:34:15] Hardly, I broke my own CSS code that I was so confidently telling him to steal [19:34:48] I relized "raidarr" would work as a selector [19:34:50] Point 2, absolutely avoid outlinking the wiki's rules to google drive. If it's significant it should be in the wiki, preferably with its own page. [19:35:18] And it utterly undermines the rules if I'm looking at this on first entry [19:35:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/868577097159942174/unknown.png [19:35:31] I prefer keeping my stuff on my little static website, my wiki itself, as no major rules and I think that is an unadded suggestion [19:35:52] my recommendation: learn CSS [19:35:53] And that is why I dislike letting others edit willy-nilly [19:35:56] In fact now that I look I will amend that, either fix those rules or drop them entirely, because it makes a mockery out of anyone moderating the place [19:36:18] @Lake was that me? [19:36:29] for anyone [19:36:52] You could call a class or an id 'raidarr' if you wanted to :p [19:37:02] an element, you'd have to go through some foundation or another [19:37:06] Ok so I am changing up the rules! [19:37:14] I kinda want to make an ugly ass skin just due to being able to do so [19:37:18] And I believe this 'pre' thing is not intentional [19:37:18] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/868577598538645514/unknown.png [19:37:20] Although it will not be on the DOC! [19:37:29] Excellent, I like them already. [19:37:57] You may achieve salvation if you make it so ugly it looks intentional >.> [19:38:09] I guess a selector is like my name, both can be used to call you [19:38:25] In CSS and programming in general, certainly [19:39:17] there are 4 types of selectors [19:39:39] My freinds's LPC code is pretty intersing thinking about it, never know a decamal point being wrong or such a ssimlpe change can have big effects [19:40:16] A lot of editors these days are able to catch them pretty efficiently [19:40:24] obligatory comic sans? [19:40:40] Think I seen that, too... [19:40:41] Lets say the MUD's progammers inj its hayday was not the best at their jobs [19:40:42] don't forget marquees and blinking gradient text [19:40:46] Hahah [19:40:50] no doubts lol [19:40:57] Glossy rainbow gradiants [19:40:59] s/gradient text/word art/ [19:40:59] chrs meant to say: don't forget marquees and blinking word art [19:41:43] Gifs, gifs everywhere with poorly done table page layouts for 640x480 [19:41:46] well....... one of my favorite websites is pretty retro [19:41:49] https://www.fornaxvoid.com/void.php [19:41:50] [url] Fornax Void - Cyberpunk Ambient Music and Art | www.fornaxvoid.com [19:41:58] There was an website that showed one what not to do, that was amusing [19:42:25] I thought I saw "MUD" for a sectound [19:42:26] Clean and aesthetic, it justifies its existence [19:42:38] yeah, actually nice [19:42:58] I'm more or less inheriting several sites soon and will probably need to work on a proper CSS layout for them, joy [19:43:17] https://www.eternalfantasy.org/ - this MUD's website is uigly (This is the MUD my freind forked to make better that uses LPC) [19:43:18] [url] The Eternal Fantasy | www.eternalfantasy.org [19:43:43] MUDs, and Rougelikes are retro in a good way [19:44:14] To a point I rather like old style design/aesthetic [19:44:30] I think there was a handcrafted attitude that is lost in the 'default' website of today [19:44:40] I think that website could do with a redo thgiuigh [19:44:43] well... for me it depends [19:44:45] I fixed the rules! [19:44:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/868579473317068850/unknown.png [19:44:51] i like visually old websites [19:44:56] I won't call my basic landing page pretty [19:45:01] Is there any rules that are missing [19:45:02] but in terms of functionality, it really depends [19:45:46] https://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml is one of the most important sites for Pokémon in general, but it was a static website created in 1998 and remains that to this day [19:45:47] [url] Serebii.net - Where Legends Come To Life | www.serebii.net [19:46:01] I would say the rules work, though 'expect a ban' for a bit of rudeness is a bit much when there is a warning/1-3 strike system for insults, harassment and bullying [19:46:03] Meh, mine is worse [19:46:19] Sidebar text could bigger though [19:46:41] Can't say I care for the cramped sidebar, otherwise desktop functional [19:47:00] Looks odd on mobilr [19:47:08] Color contrast is completely whack [19:47:38] Now like this? [19:47:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/868580198554165258/unknown.png [19:47:54] https://pokemondb.net/pokedex/gengar is a better website design-wise [19:47:54] [url] Gengar Pokédex: stats, moves, evolution & locations | Pokémon Database | pokemondb.net [19:48:06] the reason why Serebii is still popular is because it has so much info [19:48:07] I prefer that site [19:48:26] there's like, an absurd amount of extremely detailed information [19:48:29] For one, you kinda broke the numbering on that list :p for two at this juncture I'd probably remove the first rule of the second list as it's a bit redundant paired with the first. [19:48:58] Much more modern, but retains its charm [19:50:07] I think my index is ugly @raidarr [19:51:55] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/868581277274624031/unknown.png [19:51:58] Edited [19:52:44] I can't write articles, but may be able to check the wiki time to time, just tos ee whta is up [19:55:08] Can you edit the wiki [19:55:57] Can't add much as 1. Creative writing is not really my thing. 2. Wiki does not interst me that much. 3. Busy a lot with "Taerel worldbuilding project" [19:56:39] I made a small correction, otherwise the rules will do for the scale of the place. [20:01:15] You won't need loads of rules just for you and whoever esle comes [20:02:53] what else I need so I can help make the wiki go active? [20:04:45] hope [20:05:01] everything else was said erlier [20:05:48] Hope. Work. Persisance. [20:09:49] Opportunity, and the will to take it. [20:10:12] I have the bizzare craving to 'adopt' and retune a small reception wiki as a proof of concept for how they could be run. [20:10:30] This is of course completely besides actual projects I should work on. [20:18:19] WHy not... [20:21:11] @raidarr Today I managed to add templates to 100-150 pages and move the ownership template on 300ish [20:22:00] Excellent. [20:22:21] 150 more tomoorw and 25 more the day after and I should be done [20:23:31] >thought I could finish one of yhe articles >actually can't cus sleepy [20:24:47] I opened my wiki, I consider that the daily accomplishment [20:25:20] feel this too [20:26:12] I'm afraid I've burn out for now and will have to take some time away from wikis [20:26:43] but I'd rather finish the minimum before inviting other people [20:30:41] Fair attitude for sure [20:32:18] Your wiki? [20:46:41] yeah [20:48:31] I meant presenting it in fan places and waiting for potential editors