[06:33:40] geez, I never thought I'd read some of your usernames on Encyclopedia Dramatica but it happens [11:38:47] Reception123 finding something [11:44:33] Wabit, lol. [13:18:48] in portuguese, because we don't use the W sound, Elmer Fudd instead changes R with L, lol [13:19:25] (sometimes LH with L too. LH makes sort of a "Ly" sound, the same with LL in spanish) [16:21:26] Coelho 😄 [20:10:12] Who is the Discord user with thee name "anima_u" on Fiverr? Whoeever has that Fiverr acct, please DM me [21:07:52] do you all think this is the real Adamw? [21:07:53] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/874036210148986880/unknown.png [21:10:09] Nah, I don't think so. [21:12:25] I don't think it is. But who knows [21:13:54] Someone should leave him a message on Wikimedia Meta asking if it's him [21:14:18] I agree [21:15:13] @DarkMatterMan4500 would you do us the honor of leaving him a message on Wikimedia Meta asking if it's him who registered on Miraheze? [21:15:31] I might do that. [21:18:15] I'd only really bother if the account here attempts to assume that identity [21:19:19] Oh, hey Voidwalker. [23:09:17] The Adamw user appears to be assuming the identity, in accordance with later edits on the [[Community noticeboard]] [23:09:17] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_noticeboard [23:09:18]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_noticeboard [23:09:19] [url] Community noticeboard - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [23:09:19] [url] Community noticeboard - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [23:10:52] their detailed response makes me think it truly is Adamw [23:11:01] It does seem to be in order. [23:12:19] yeah, I agree with Voidwalker here. "Adamw" is pretty generic, so unless they post a userbox that claims to be Wikimedia's Adamw, then I'd be inclined to leave this as is. [23:12:46] dmehus: well, he jumped right into the conversation so... [23:12:52] Well again, the content they are posting seems to fully presume that they are Adamw given the topic they replied to. [23:12:58] ^ [23:14:47] true... I guess it's a bit of an edge case here, but on the other hand, that also suggests that it's likely the same user so if a confirmation edit was called for, it'd likely be received. Does Adamw hold sysop permissions on Wikimedia? [23:15:03] s/sysop/sysop (or higher) [23:15:03] dmehus meant to say: true... I guess it's a bit of an edge case here, but on the other hand, that also suggests that it's likely the same user so if a confirmation edit was called for, it'd likely be received. Does Adamw hold sysop (or higher) permissions on Wikimedia? [23:15:48] sysop on test wikipedia and is an MW dev I believe [23:15:56] and running for WMF Board too [23:16:10] Shot caller either way, and ^ is the biggest significance of the announcement on the CN [23:17:16] hrm, okay, test wikipedia is a special case...I've even had sysop permissions there, but the board thing, yeah. But are they the candidate that called for Wikimedia to explore additional funding opportunities? [23:17:34] yes [23:17:37] If so, I'd say that suggests this is their Wikimedia account as they obviously are aware of Miraheze [23:17:50] Yeah [23:18:00] if you want, I guess you can, I just wouldn't want to annoy them, that's all. [23:18:22] Because I wonder how a fake adamw will know that a thread concerning that is existing on Miraheze CN [23:18:32] The chances of anything being 'odd' strike me as incredibly low, but having some standard, routine or policy to cover identities might not hurt going in the future [23:18:56] and jump right in and provide a very long and philosophical response [23:19:22] Yeah, that alone made me believe that they're the one [23:19:24] well, we have a policy, Raidarr, [[Username Policy]], but there are always discretionary cases when a confirmation edit should be asked for [23:19:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Username_Policy [23:19:26] [url] Username Policy - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [23:20:04] but as I say, if you feel it's needed, that's fine, I wouldn't be opposed; I just don't think it's needed here based on the behavioural evidence on both wikis, timestamps, etc. [23:20:29] The linked username policy is case in point that there is no clause whatsoever regarding 'figures of note' on a clearly related platform such as wikipedia, fandom, or mediawiki development [23:21:01] alright, who's going to have the privilege of annoying leaving him a message on Wikimedia Meta to verify if it's him [23:21:07] It is a difficult point to regulate/enforce for sure and a slippery slope to consider in detail, but something that should be observed and formally considered to potentially head off issues in the future, especially with increased collaboration [23:21:32] But in saying that I'm only preaching for consideration of these factors, in this case I'm not sure it would be necessary. [23:22:05] If we do something, it should relate to some standard in handling the process so we're not looking at it anew for each case with no coverage. [23:22:39] actually there, Raidarr. Wikimedia users were specifically noted in the RfC. [23:22:54] It may just not be reflected in the actual policy, but it's definitely there [23:22:56] Even if it is to formally say 'if you seem related enough and the content isn't heavy enough, we'll let it slide but ask for verification if you speak on behalf of another platform' [23:23:08] If it is actual policy in any way, it should be there, not in rfc archives imo [23:23:29] I'd even be slightly fiery and say it is unreasonable to draw precedence out of muddied discussion rather than curated policy pages [23:24:02] yeah, I agree, but that's actually fairly common on Miraheze for the policy pages to not be completely reflective of the RfC [23:24:33] Then that is something to improve, and if there is a case where RfC must be drawn from, that should be a highlight to better the related policy page. Better comprehension over fuzziness. [23:24:45] that shouldn't be a thing though, everything should be stated inside the policy itself tbh [23:34:05] but yeah, even if Wikimedia users weren't stated in the actual RfC, someone clearly attempting to impersonate a Wikimedia user for a user that is yet to exist on Miraheze until they created it is still within scope of the actual policy. That's why Voidwalker likely suggested that unless it was clear they were attempting to impersonate the user, to determine if it was in good- or bad-faith. For high profile users, though, a person can [23:34:05] appear to be good faith in trying to impersonate a notable Wikimedia user, which is why by convention we reach out to that actual user prior to locking to confirm if that's indeed the case [23:36:27] Funny you mentioned that @dmehus. We've had to deal with a couple of impersonations of ERoss (WMF) and Stryn, which they were created in less than 48 hours. [23:36:54] I see there is a lot of convention yet little policy, not just for Stewards but for many things. Miraheze should have clear policies and not rely on a system of conventions and tradition [23:37:18] Nothing really looks to awkward in confirming from the actual WM user if they're the one on Miraheze. [23:37:27] I agree that from time to time, calls must be made according to one's judgement and that's fine, but excessive reliance on tradition shouldn't be a thing [23:37:37] Although that isn't the best step to take