[02:19:11] would be cool to have a Minecraft server, but it would need some tools to keep trolls out [02:21:05] yeah [02:22:53] by the way, dmehus, how are you? It's been a while [02:23:32] Whitelist it? [02:29:08] @Lake, good thanks. yeah I've just been busy with work. [02:29:21] we're supposed to get some more bad storms next week :( [02:29:27] probably worse on the coast though [02:29:47] @TheBurningPrincess, whitelist what? [02:29:54] oh, I forgot you lived far from the coast :P [02:30:19] @Lake, well "far" in European contexts. In Canadian contexts, I consider 4 hours drive fairly close :P [02:30:40] for me, far is like 8 or more hours drive away [02:31:08] The minecraft server [02:31:31] well, it depends, if it's a bad traffic day here, it can take 4 hours just to get to the other side of the city [02:31:33] @TheBurningPrincess, oh, how do you mean by whitelisting it? [02:31:54] @Lake, true! 4 hours to get across the city would be major gridlock [02:32:10] that'd be...painful [02:32:15] especially on humid days [02:32:24] I don't think traffic is a problem around Vancouver (or is it?). I heard Toronto was more crazy with that [02:32:40] I think so? Yeah, I think Vancouver has worse traffic [02:32:46] s/Vancouver/Toronto [02:32:47] dmehus meant to say: I think so? Yeah, I think Toronto has worse traffic [02:32:59] It means only people on a list can acess the server [02:33:13] TheBurningPrincess, ah, ok [02:33:24] oh yeah, you never went to the eastern parts [02:34:41] yeah, I've never been east of Saskatchewan [02:34:46] The other choice would be a protecion mod like WorldGuard on a Spigot server and protect areas that are inpoamt [02:34:52] farthest east I've been is the Dominican Republic [02:35:04] so I've been to your timezone, but not in Canada :P [02:36:30] I need to go to more countries, but it's just too expensive for me rn [02:37:34] yeah [02:37:43] like pcr tests and stuff? [02:38:03] hmm maybe [02:38:19] my friend is going to France for college as well [02:38:51] France is a nice place, especially the countryside. Paris though is uh, not what you'd expect [02:39:03] I think he's going to Nice or Lyon [02:39:13] oh yeah, those are wonderful places [02:39:36] i always got confused that there's Lyon in France and León in Spain [02:40:17] heh, same meaning but different language [11:14:32] I've recently started working on one of my other wikis, called The Kirby Encyclopedia. Link to it: https://kirbyencyclopedia.miraheze.org/wiki [11:14:34] [url] The Kirby Encyclopedia, a Kirby wiki | kirbyencyclopedia.miraheze.org [11:15:21] But I didn't work on it alone. @RMV2003 has helped me with setting up the foundation. [11:22:49] I'm not too worried about handling trolls :p [11:23:37] Well, if the trolls did come in, I would ban them instantly if they were rabid vandals. [11:24:34] Personally I'd like to keep it advertised primarily to Miraheze members/volunteers, but have it open as a form of exposure to people in general. In good-faith people would be free to show up and do things, and if they misbehave + have no accountability somewhere else we can see (such as, maybe messaging them on-wiki could be better if they have an account), then they'll have simply overstayed their welcome. [11:25:42] I'd also like to consider a 'two layer' system; you can totally play if you're a random person, but you'd need a degree of trust to be a full on member, which you could get by being a known + verified member on the server's wiki, registered via a dedicated server discord and/or simply earn it with good on-server activity [11:26:02] Oh, now I see who you were talking to. You were replying to @Lake Joseph's comment, and not mine, but I'm assuming you have acknowledged my comment. [11:26:07] An 'autoconfirmed' for minecraft in other words :p [11:26:21] I have little doubt of your ability to exterminate trolls that appear on the wiki 😛 [11:26:43] I vaguely recall having seen the kirby encyclopedia somewhere. [11:27:05] It's surprisingly neat, now that I look at it. [11:27:33] I inspired it by the Kirby Wiki on FANDOM, but I'm still working on making it more original, and not a plain carbon-copy of it. [11:27:47] You should also thank @RMV2003 for the help. [11:29:11] I'm not familiar enough to attribute specific credit, but all due goes to him of course. [11:29:30] Yes, definitely. [11:29:50] I see he's done extensive template and category work, things I can always get behind at a glance through Recent Changes. [11:30:25] Though reading the blurb on fair use, perhaps it would be more sustainable to base it under UK law, where the wiki itself is hosted [11:30:58] Right. [13:20:05] yeah i helped [13:20:22] remind me of mario.miraheze.org in a way [13:21:21] i wanted the url changed to kirby.miraheze.org eventually (as it's easier to type in url box & simpler) [13:26:09] i recycled templates from mariowiki [13:30:56] i adapted the monobook design from kirby wikia from 2000s but reworked it to become more original & also applied it to vector [13:36:23] meanwhile i did this article last night & the design is supposed to be a throwback to late 00s Wikia [13:36:23] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/914510031481888808/Screenshot_from_2021-11-28_05-35-51.png [13:36:31] (demonstrating monaco skin) [13:37:13] https://nintendo.miraheze.org/wiki/Metal_Mario article itself is here [13:37:14] [url] Metal Mario - Nintendo Wiki, a wiki on Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, Kirby, Animal Crossing, and more! | nintendo.miraheze.org [13:39:12] Well, as long as they're tuned to fit the wiki [13:39:51] I wonder, can it be moved to United States servers? [13:40:27] https://nintendo.miraheze.org/wiki/Metal_Mario (testing TextExtracts, i just enabled it rn) [13:40:28] [url] Metal Mario - Nintendo Wiki, a wiki on Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, Kirby, Animal Crossing, and more! | nintendo.miraheze.org [13:45:50] i'd like for there to be that option, esp because i'm american [13:46:10] That's where I poke @Owen as I'm not sure about the legal distinction [13:48:25] https://nintendo.miraheze.org/wiki/Kirby%27s_Dream_Land here's attempt at a game page (throwback) [13:48:26] [url] Kirby's Dream Land - Nintendo Wiki, a wiki on Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, Kirby, Animal Crossing, and more! | nintendo.miraheze.org [13:53:12] also ty for complimenting about the kirby encyclopedia design [16:52:32] admittedly it would kind of be nice to post server invite to some independently-hosted wikis (i manage a couple) [16:53:09] e.g. spongebobwiki.org [16:53:50] I am thinking about minecraft 1.18 [16:55:45] i haven't played enough minecraft [16:57:33] I haven't paid attention to recent updates [16:57:44] I suppose if I'm going to do server management I should :p [16:58:18] I would be happy to play on your server [17:23:21] I would like to 32 GB of RAM and a CPU upgrade for my compute [17:28:01] TheBurningPrincess, how come? so you can run Qubes OS on your PC? [17:31:07] @RMV2003, re: your question about moving your wiki to U.S.-based servers, unfortunately, that's not possible, as far as I am aware. While some VPSes might be U.S.-based, I think all the cloud servers are UK or EU-based, if I'm not mistaken. In any case, Miraheze Limited is still a UK-based not-for-profit corporation, subject to UK laws. I'm not quite sure what you're trying to achieve, though? [17:33:35] dmehus -- i meant more just the fact that US fair use [17:33:52] because @Joseph Raidarr thinks there could be conflict regarding that [17:34:13] on kirby encyclopedia [17:34:49] Dmehus is also T&S and would have a good idea; essentially the fact that Miraheze is fundamentally a UK organization means that while you can use US fair use, the only governing principle if the issue is pushed is what would legally apply in the UK [17:35:12] If you followed both that's one thing, but practically speaking US cannot replace UK with regards to Miraheze by nature of the hosting [17:36:19] uk has brought us some great things such as Rare (Banjo, Conker, Viva Pinata, Ghoulies, etc) and Argonaut (devs of Star Fox 1 & 2), etc [17:36:20] dmehus minecraft with optifine and high draw range [17:37:37] Sorry for the ping, replied to wrong commet [17:37:48] Tbh, I just want a solution where I can convincingly pull off a daily driver virtual machine desktop and a side 'oldschool' desktop to test tools for modding, on a decently behaved linux underlying device [17:38:14] All of which will require significant upgrades to graphics, cpu and fundamentally the motherboard from what I have now [17:38:25] @RMV2003, fair use is a country-specific copyright defence, and applies to the contributing user's home country, as far as I'm aware. UK also has similfar fair dealing provisions, much like Canada, I suspect [17:39:00] Modding what Raidarr? [17:39:06] no prob [17:39:34] Hm, wonder what VMs could be used for [17:40:18] ohh yeah Shaun the Sheep & Aardman as well [17:40:29] Tbh, I'm kind of everywhere, but I very specifically require a good split OS solution for classic MechCommander, where the editor will only behave usably in Windows 98, but the game itself plays just fine in modern systems [17:40:56] heh some games still only run in Windows 98 eh? [17:41:03] Long live Windows 98 :D [17:41:21] What I'd also like is full graphics operability between the host being able to do stuff and the 'primary VM' doing stuff, resulting in needing two decent cards and slots... which I don't currently have [17:41:38] Multiple devices that each do okay, but no device that can act like multiple devices well enough [17:42:09] i have an IBM ThinkPad T21. Imagine my luck when I found that a relative of mine happened to have one owned the same model & had the restore disk for it lying around [17:42:12] 16 GB or 32 GB RAM? [17:42:26] been a while since i used it though [17:42:31] I'm actually looking at 98 because the game is full 32 bit, but the editor and the installer are built in 16 bit, and the difference in basic stability is huge even though the editor can still open in 64 bit [17:42:47] Editor might be 32 bit now that I think of it, but it still behaves much worse on a modern system [17:43:25] I actually have 64 gb ddr4 sticks I want to use, but never got to and am saving for the right machine [17:44:04] ah [17:44:10] wow, a single 64 gb ram stick? [17:44:28] I need one more so I can reach 16 gb on dual channel [17:44:31] I'm also not concerned about storage space as I can easily scrape together a good 10tb usable, but how much of that physically plugs in or can be made useful at a time is different and I have not made a proper local network solution to leverage my space yet [17:44:39] It's actually 2 32 sticks :p [17:45:04] how many slots do you have? [17:45:06] If possible I like them split up a bit more anyways, as long as it culminates in the maximum the motherboard will actually use. [17:45:23] Current device is 2 slots, but capped at 32 usable [17:45:28] ah [17:45:31] mine has 4 [17:45:35] and ddr3 :p [17:45:39] but up to 32 GB only I think [17:45:42] and it's ddr4 [17:46:08] my ram sticks are also 3200 MHz [17:46:21] And yeah, I particularly need the 64 gb cap, two functioning spots so I can dual use 540 rtx cards, and probably a better cpu [17:46:57] I got a Ryzen 5 2600 [17:47:04] and a Radeon RX 580 [17:47:11] I forget the speeds on the 64gbs, but I typically don't dip below 3000 mhz on purchase or secondhand use for my modern setups [17:47:55] I was going to buy a R5 3600, but when I was buying it got absurdly expensive [17:48:03] The trick with a lot of my junk is that I very rarely buy components at full price :p mix and match is what I have [17:48:26] I also looked for a Ryzen 5 2700, but I couldn't find one in my region [17:49:00] Probably the fanciest single pieces are 4tb drives, the 32x2 sticks and 1k power supplies that are reasonably reliable [17:49:28] I need a 1tb SSD nvme [17:49:38] Yeah, not at 1tb ssd yet :p [17:49:39] currently I'm using just a SATA one with 500 gb [17:49:48] That's about my grade. [17:50:04] and the rest it's just random hard disks I put all my garbage [17:50:15] I think if I just properly set up a local network I won't have to worry about practical storage use much going forward [18:57:13] How much ram should I ask for? [18:58:41] I think 8 is enough if your tasks are not much extreme [18:58:51] with 8 I can even play a lot of games with no problem tbh [19:12:20] 8 works, I'd recommend a good 16 for gaming, multitasking and future proofing though if you still want to be conservative but do those things sustainably [19:47:53] I have 8, computer crashes a lot [19:49:36] It should be a crime to make a computer with less than 8GBs of RAM [19:49:46] 16 is the bar min I would go for, I would prefer 32 [19:49:51] ^ [19:50:03] I personally have 32GBs of RAM on my PC [19:50:32] Donation please? :EpicFaceMH: [19:50:36] wow, that's really good [19:50:37] I need it for minecraft with opifine and I wish for a longer draw distange [19:50:49] I actually do have an extra 16GB stick laying around :P [19:50:52] send address [19:50:56] lol [19:51:27] 420 JoeMomma Dr [19:51:28] Trying to see 5 chunks forwards when sections of your city are 500x500 [19:51:43] For legal reasons, that address is not real [19:51:53] And I still have a weird sense of humor [19:52:39] 43, Kythi Road, Virtia Town, Kingdom of Naarel [19:53:27] heh [19:54:39] I like making up fanstay names [19:56:03] * dmehus would be surprised if there was a real 420 JoeMomma Dr anywhere :P [19:56:25] If there was, I would want to move the just for the memes [19:56:33] lol [19:56:42] There* [19:56:44] too bad [[w:Fucking, Austria]] got renamed :( [19:56:44] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking%2c_Austria [19:57:01] :( [19:57:13] F in the chat [19:58:29] I have 3 8GB sticks laying around somewhere 😛 [19:58:50] nice [19:58:54] I'll take em [19:59:56] Oh, what kinda servers are you planning on buying for the hosting? [20:00:53] Depends how lazy I think, if you were referring to me on the MC deal [20:01:20] Going lazy I'm probably going to use a host I've engaged with in the past to get off the ground, transferring to something more custom later [20:02:01] Oh, I may be willing to make a simple spawn for it [20:02:55] I'm tempted to have a thing going where people can 'donate' content to the server [20:03:21] I'm already thinking of it as a true collaborative project, ie, whatever the community makes/sets up/donates is it [20:03:41] What about a simple dome roofed spawn [20:03:43] Beyond me putting down basic hosting and a setup of course :p [20:04:12] I'd gladly accept if someone bought a decent website host for me hehehehe [20:04:16] It would work, especially to start up. And if we build past it later, I'd like to save it for future iterations. [20:04:31] A cone may be easyer without worldedit [20:04:52] In other words even if someone makes a bigger or more popular spawn, old locations can still be accessed as parts of server history. [20:51:09] My spawn is ment to be a stop gap anyway [22:15:10] @DarkMatterMan4500 please check message I sent in your Phab task, when you have time. Thanks. :) [22:15:18] Okay. [23:26:35] : Should I have a floating train platforms held up by magic or pillars holding up the platforms? Floating is cooler and easyer to fit builds under and less of a pain with roads, but a bit more work to plan and less realistic , pillared is more realisic, but builds are harder to fit underneth and roads + pillers may be a problemn?