[00:14:36] My doctor called, guess I don’t have a lot of white blood cells. [00:26:12] Speaking of blood, about 2 months ago, I had my blood test done, and my doctor said that my blood was in good condition. [14:01:06] I don't follow Foone but I see his posts quite frequently via rt's what the hell [14:01:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/917777745415667712/IMG_20211207_170017.jpg [14:19:52] it's cux most of your following follows them [14:30:53] my point wasn't that lol [14:31:37] welp. [14:31:38] there is a screenshot, he got suspended on DMCA for a WP image [14:31:58] welp. [14:58:42] What's the Approval score of a wiki acceptance about? [14:59:07] An obsolete function for when the WC process was considered for automation [15:00:08] The score was to be a means of assessing the request and perhaps be part of an automated result, which I believe also came with the canned responses. Never went far enough to actually become automated, iirc. [15:00:12] the higher the score the....? [15:00:39] tbqh I'm not entirely sure where the score played into it, aside from assuming that the score would correspond with chance to accept [15:00:53] I believe it's generated based on the type of response given and used to train the system [15:01:04] If it actually trains anything right now, dunno :p [15:01:38] lol [15:01:42] alright. [15:02:52] It is only waiting for SRE to deploy the feature flag for automation to take effect. All the code is there, just not enabled by SRE [15:03:09] Ah, so rather far along [15:03:29] Tbh, I don't care for automating the process, not the way it works now [15:08:23] o [15:08:30] nice [15:10:07] Why do I feel the 1.37 version of mediawiki would be amazing, cuz right now, Wikimedia Meta is a bit flashy than Miraheze Meta, [15:10:07] Although they're on 1.38 but, I feel 1.37 would also be amazing. [15:10:51] I don't think the version of mediawiki has anything to do with the flash of the metas; I do think that some consideration towards styling would help miraheze though, both meta and for wiki creators to get off the ground more fancy [15:11:36] I also think either guides or default integrated tweaks could be done to make people's styling experience nicer, but without dedicated volunteers for it that's just a wish [15:14:09] okay [15:18:52] Meta looks too strict [15:19:07] imagine if miraheze had their own skin 🤔 [15:25:11] I can imagine [15:26:06] I wouldn't mind even a stylized vector [15:26:58] that's what I was about to say, lol [15:27:04] Let's not forget my beautiful Vector styling [15:27:04] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/917799376791932978/unknown-1.png [15:27:18] As I've said before, I'm pretty sure I committed a few crimes while designing this [15:27:31] With refinement it could work [15:27:35] styling vector skin to a wonderful piece of shit wouldn't be a bad idea, lol [15:27:36] yup [15:27:55] I've recently become a fan of using box shadows >.> [15:28:23] Perhaps to implement it into the main content area to help it pop a little from the background. [15:28:41] * uses shadow effects purely for glow effects * [15:28:43] Has everyone seen how Meta looks like with the Cosmos skin? [15:28:50] Looks pretty good if I may say so myself [15:28:59] actually I didn't [15:29:22] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze?useskin=cosmos [15:29:23] [url] Meta | meta.miraheze.org [15:29:24] If anything I'd want to draw innovations from how the main polandballwiki addresses it, it makes the styling less clunky [15:29:43] Mainly with the top navigation bar, although what they do also break how the buttons work for me [15:29:46] The automated wiki creation hasn't been enabled because the scores are useless [15:30:13] We've seen wikis declined with very high scores [15:30:17] There are too many factors and reasonable exceptions to see automation being reasonable imo [15:30:28] Its something I eventually intend to work on [15:30:28] hmmm white content area looks pretty jarring for me [15:30:34] on the flipside, you can make a 2-3 sentence request that hardly says anything [15:30:46] I think the content area would be less jarring if the navigation bar was made to fit [15:31:06] The color scheming is otherwise a bit all over the place [15:31:34] warm or cold colours as are nicer to perceive than just white [15:32:39] Might be nice to have something where we can demo and experiment with stylizing [15:32:57] I'd like to perhaps bake that into the meta project, which in turn I would like to consider moving out of my userspace to make into something more serious [15:32:59] also been often hearing that black on white on a monitor isn't good for eyes like on paper [15:33:42] Even though it's been defeating me, I think the HasSomeColors skin has potential [15:34:19] First time I've heard of the skin [15:36:05] It's a nightmare right now, but I swear it has potential >.> [15:36:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/917801645746823228/unknown.png [15:36:42] timeless but make it more mobile [15:37:18] timeless ought to be a good meta option tbh, though maybe not the default [15:38:10] I referred to your screenshot 👀 those borders on buttons reminded me timeless [15:38:27] o [15:38:29] probably inspired [15:38:59] I don't like the background contrast with the white text though [15:53:20] I think it would look better with a darker background and white text [15:53:57] I've since darkened it, and I like it better already. [15:54:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/917806192187830292/unknown.png [15:54:19] Something about the font sits off, but I might come to like it anyway. [15:56:58] EB Garamond is my kinda font taste [18:12:20] I know it's a quirk of the upgrade, but watching Miraheze right now is like a mini acid trip 😛 [18:12:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/917840971184615434/unknown.png [18:14:10] I was about to reply to that when the database was locked [18:14:39] I was tempted >.> but I digress. On the acid trip topic, [18:14:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/917841551751786546/unknown.png [18:14:49] That's a fun dropdown [18:16:45] What's fascinating is seeing the little things break (saw some very odd spacing in page history after that), but in general it's all still up and usable. Aside from edits of course. [18:17:17] And thumbnails evidently, which I assume will all end with the upgrade's completion. [18:19:08] The thumbnails are actually technically unrelated to the upgrade and are part of our ongoing effort to reduce file size [18:19:18] However the upgrade has made things worse by not regenerating them due to the readonly status [18:19:37] Yeah, wee bit of confusion, but all evidently smooth enough so far [18:20:36] Is the file consumption on Miraheze a notable problem, or is that just a step to keep it from becoming one? [18:21:51] @raidarr a bit of both [18:22:05] We're not currently in a terrible position but we want to keep it that way [18:22:16] Fair enough. [18:22:19] And thumbnails being deleted (and some regenerated) is quite an 'innocent' way of doing that [18:23:03] So, I probably shouldn't mirror my gibs of modding archives on Miraheze 😛 [18:23:30] @raidarr heh, I mean I wouldn't go telling individual users not to do things since one wiki takes up 200GB worth of files [18:23:42] but if possible embedding images from other websites is quite helpful [18:23:46] or using WMF Commons too [18:23:55] Good to know on principle. [18:24:18] Sadly the list of reliable third party image hosts is fickle with its ebb and flow. [18:24:43] Reception123: which wiki [18:25:03] RhinosF1: drawnfeet I believe iirc what John said (he did some analyzing) [18:25:20] but largest wikis in terms of files differs significantly from largest wikis in terms of database size [18:25:30] like allthetropes was 20th or something in terms of files [18:25:44] though a lot of that 200GB was thumbnails actually, hence where we got the idea to delete them [18:27:46] Obviously quite a few will regenerate because that's what they do but we do hope that at least some amount of them won't (for various reasons) and then we'll at least save some space [18:28:11] Ah [18:58:51] this wiki is... still concerning to me [19:00:05] hm? [19:00:37] drawnfeet [19:00:57] (and the other one of the same bureaucrat, which I forgot the name) [19:01:03] oh lol. As a sysadmin I shouldn't comment on wikis but that one is not my cup of 🍵 :P