[00:31:54] I'm not sure how I'd respond to that tbh [00:32:00] I'd wonder if I had heard them correctly [00:32:15] Though 'gets' can be a loaded word [00:36:41] Now if someone says it's a waste of time with no conditional, I'd say it's simply not for them [00:39:51] Well, I contribute voluntarily because I like it, and to hang out, but I don't treat it like a playground or anything, we contribute with the intention of helping the project. [00:40:28] Yeah, so I'm not sure what the point is of someone saying it's a waste of time [00:40:51] Though it's important to stipulate between volunteering to get something and volunteering to better the whole, as they can at times be conflicting motives [00:45:39] The "voluntariness" is a help, but you will not receive anything in return, that word means that. Also, we waste time playing, watching football, but is just "editing website" a waste of time? [00:54:21] I certainly would in no way consider watching football more productive than tinkering, if at a somewhat low level, with something technical such as wiki building. [00:54:41] So from what I'm hearing the person in question just doesn't 'get it'. [01:05:20] exactly that [02:00:41] I'd say it's possible they just don't understand the enjoyment of volunteering. [02:01:18] Also, much can be learned in the process of volunteering... which for me is rewarding, as it helping someone. [02:02:38] Cooperation with others also builds several important skills, and can help keep certain skills practised. [02:03:57] Building something with one's own hands, or brain can in itself satisfying, as well as working together with others towards a common goal. [02:04:12] It allows people to be part of a "community of practice" [02:04:53] https://www.communityofpractice.ca/background/what-is-a-community-of-practice/ So I'd say they probably don't understand the benefits of being part of such. [02:04:54] [url] What is a community of practice? - Community of Practice | www.communityofpractice.ca [02:06:28] [[wp:Community_of_practice]] [02:06:28] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/wp:Community_of_practice [02:06:29] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Wp:Community_of_practice?action=edit&redlink=1 [02:06:30] [url] Wp:Community of practice - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [02:07:05] w:WP: perhaps? [02:07:12] I think they don't really cover the benefits well there, there's a lot more to it in edtech practice. [02:07:14] Ooops, yep [02:08:55] I'm looking at the interwiki table... [02:09:13] [[wikipedia:Community_of_practice]] [02:09:13] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/wikipedia:Community_of_practice [02:09:14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_practice [02:09:15] [wikipedia] Community of practice | "A community of practice (CoP) is a group of people who "share a concern or a passion for something they do and learn how to do it better as they interact regularly". The concept was first proposed by cognitive anthropologist Jean Lave and educational theorist Etienne Wenger in their 1991 book Situated Learning (Lave & Wenger 1991). Wenger then significantly expanded on the concept in his [ā€¦]" [02:09:44] Hmm, I have to learn how to use that bot better šŸ˜† [02:11:15] I'm so used to our past interwiki [03:13:49] @FrozenPlum That's what people don't understand. It's also pleasurable. Why do you think we also watch football or play games? [03:21:30] Yep, it surprises me how many people don't realize this kind of stuff can be enjoyable... differently wired brains I guess. [03:22:57] But it's also the lack of time or that desire to make money at all. [03:23:44] (If something is wrong with what I'm saying, sorry, it could be the language barrier.) [03:24:15] I get it, we all prioritize different things with our time. [03:25:45] Some are wired to "tinker" with things, problem-solve, and create. Other's are wired for slightly different types of enjoyment. [03:27:24] Yeah, and to add to it, my knowledge of CSS just got a little "better" just after messing around with the wikis. [03:32:46] Exactly! There's always something new to do or learn for me, that's why I like it. XD [03:33:04] Gotta keep my brain engaged somehow. [13:46:28] And see, I have trouble fathoming why a majority of people who watch sports, do, given in my experience that often strongly corresponds with not actually playing the sports themselves >.> [13:46:32] The dream of doing, idk [17:01:37] ... [17:01:39] ssh-agent [17:01:44] beautiful name [17:01:55] you did not [17:01:55] Bongo-Cat: thanks lol [17:02:03] thats actually a command [17:02:28] šŸ¤£ omg [22:34:46] šŸ˜† [22:59:17] Iā€™m sick and tired of these funny numbers,can we release new ones? [23:17:23] wot