[00:08:51] Excelsior is literally made of steel, not aluminum, the steel used in flight recorder :P [00:08:55] Giant robot [00:10:17] DMM says it couldn't do it, "just admins like John and Dmehus" and misquoting Agent as admin. I didn't like the sound, although that wasn't the intention. [00:11:22] I don't warning as an administrator, usually with no intention of blocking/warning the user as if it were one. I avoid as much as possible. [00:11:57] Your tone did make it sound like a warning [00:12:38] That's not news [00:12:47] Once again, I'm guessing your intention wasn't that but the translation service you use probably made your tone sound incorrect [00:15:14] I didn't see anything wrong with my comment, instead it came out as a question why the change [00:16:20] Also, DMM already warning me of the same style in something about modules [00:24:20] Yeah, that's true. [00:28:44] Please provide more arguments. The goal is always help, not about "I look like an administrator" or anything like that. My warning was only three paragraphs long, with no second purpose. I could see that my "warning" was just a question. Unsurprisingly, Agent didn't agree with me, including on basic issues where he was even wrong like the duplicated/forked wikis. [00:36:22] The issue was that the first part of your sentences sounded like a demand. If you had phrased it more softly like "Could you please explain this edit? I don't understand it. Thank you" but instead you said "What was the reason for this change that left the pages all messed up?" which in my opinion sounds like you're accusing him of making an edit in bad faith and demanding answers. Again though, assuming good faith, it was [00:36:22] likely a machine translation error. As such, this topic has dragged on long enough and we should disconverse at this point as this conversation is not conducive anymore. [00:41:49] This was the point, the quote you said, I should have "asked", but, note that he literally left the pages with tags structured in weird ways, but I believe it was accidental, as I said. Yeah, let it go. Let's talk something more constructive, although unfortunately the last three conversations I've had on Discord have been discussion only. [00:45:00] Yeah, he does need to be more careful with what he's been posting. [00:53:39] Just read my comments, DMM, I feel like you don't make it. [00:54:47] I'm still here. [00:55:05] Ok [00:55:10] But, you shouldn't really rush me @YellowFrogger. [00:55:48] I should have been wrong [00:56:57] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:YellowFrogger/Archive_3#Please_be_careful_with_the_module_templates: - the way he worded it though sounded like he had geniune concern from a user's perspective [00:57:04] [url] User talk:YellowFrogger/Archive 3 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [00:58:15] yes, this recent warning of mine to him had the same intention as this one [01:00:34] The core issue here is the tone and we keep going in circles about this to no avail. For the second time now, let's disconverse. [01:05:54] Yes, let's drop it. [01:11:41] what matters is that excelsiors will rule the world 😅 🤖 [01:12:36] And I think using AWB is already a reason to have bots, of course not. But I'm learning the true functionality [01:14:07] By the way, the first time I used AWB my computer just shut down on its own. [01:14:39] That's why I stopped using [01:16:16] Furthermore it is very difficult to configure, even to save an edit. Only "AWB" I use is in the browser using Javascript, here it's easy. [05:57:07] > what a nice day! lets see the next miraheze meeti- [05:57:08] > https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/931064297633775616/unknown.png [05:57:25] > oh gosh [05:57:26] > again? [05:57:30] > timezones suck! [06:02:22] Sorry about that. We're aiming for the next Meeting on Feb 1st to be at a better time for people in Asia/Australia [06:05:14] > oh [06:05:19] > its just a joke :P [07:03:58] tn is me! 😄 [08:12:59] Wow, scp and shell really just requires practice lol [08:15:39] still learns things after working professionally with Linux for 7 years 😅 [08:30:49] I don't think Phab is as easy as @Agent says [08:31:03] Wait [08:31:04] It should be? [08:31:06] no 👀 [08:31:14] I've installed it countless of times [08:31:21] Hey, I even struggle configuring httpd lmao [08:31:30] lol, understandable [08:31:34] I need irl friends ahaha [08:31:47] somebody needs to hold my hand while I light my box on fire [08:32:11] I can get to the point of a successful LAMP install [08:32:15] After that, idk [08:32:32] Maybe I'm messing up chmod and vHosts [08:33:15] the phabricator install instructions are fairly good ^^ but I found a couple of third-party guides back when I first did an install of it [08:34:05] Any error in specific that you're getting? [08:34:28] unable to connect to site [08:34:29] lol [08:35:03] I have it in a subdomain associated to the director /var/www/subdomains/phab [08:35:39] So DNS errors? [08:35:43] oh wait. lemme see if pointing it to the webroot helps? [08:35:45] its always DNS [08:35:52] I'm on cloudflare now [08:35:53] so idk [08:36:09] the main index.html of the html folder loads up fine [08:37:56] so the subdomain is resolving? 🙂 [08:38:08] Sorry, I meant on the www domain [08:39:43] ah well my first suggestion would be making sure that subdomain resolves at all 🙂 see if you can ping it ping subdomain.domain.tld ? [08:40:22] weird [08:40:25] www pings fine [08:40:30] can't find phab. though [08:40:52] nslookup subdomain.domain.tld fails then? [08:41:16] non-existent domain [08:41:19] ¯_(ツ)_/¯ [08:41:22] check your A records in cloudflare 🙂 [08:41:36] > wait a sec....TheresNoTime? [08:41:40] Do I need a separate A for each sub? [08:41:49] > [[wikipedia:User:TheresNoTime]]? [08:41:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/wikipedia:User:TheresNoTime [08:41:50]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheresNoTime [08:41:50] [wikipedia] User:TheresNoTime | "" [08:41:59] yeah 🙂 (or a CNAME) [08:42:04] yus [08:42:05] ope [08:42:07] rip [08:42:09] > o [08:42:16] Just a little dumdum on my part :p [08:42:22] it's okay @Agent [08:42:25] I just can't DNS [08:42:25] hey its always DNS [08:42:35] lol it's fine, it happens :P [08:43:00] my most "its always DNS" story is the door card access system stopped working at $old_company - it was DNS [08:43:33] do I know you? :3 /pos [08:43:46] I'm starting to think that the only way to properly learn all this stuff is immersion lol. Force myself to use Linux or smth [08:44:25] Is it best practice to use CNAME or A when they point to the same IP? [08:44:38] I would assume CNAME, right? [08:44:40] imo, the easiest way to learn Linux is to build it from scratch :P [08:44:46] good question >:D CNAME to the root domain [08:44:50] > no? [08:45:26] Also, I would def share, if only my domain wasn't my real name lol [08:45:41] was just wondering how you guessed this is all, but hi! 👋 [08:45:45] Might buy another domain as an alias someday ¯_(ツ)_/¯ [08:46:01] > lol [08:46:27] hmm, is the name on Phabricator not your real name? [08:46:33] Well, it is [08:46:42] but you don't have my middle initial >:D [08:46:48] D: [08:46:50] Unfortunately my name is... common [08:46:51] unable2dox [08:47:01] I would love ross.com [08:47:07] but can't for obvious reasons :p [08:47:25] just get a small loan of a million dollars and buy it [08:47:28] ¯_(ツ)_/¯ [08:47:32] no biggie [08:48:35] why does abbott own ross.com lol [08:48:41] so random [08:48:54] mfw I realized I transferred the httpd.conf with /path/to/phabricator/webroot [08:49:44] gotta get things like https://tnt.contact :thinksmart: [08:49:45] [url] TheresNoTime | 👋 | tnt.contact [08:50:01] smert [08:50:04] > explode the contact [08:50:34] just get a free .tk domain for testing :P [08:50:35] dross.wtf [08:50:48] dross.ooo [08:50:55] dross.lol [08:51:23] > tk bad [08:51:25] > virus [08:51:29] > ml too [08:51:33] > basically everything freenom [08:51:49] Totally would've been willing to take a fun TLD if my personal pro website weren't kinda made for the old crowd [08:51:51] > fun fact: tk is the domain of tokelau (a country) [08:52:15] Getting (non-tech) jobs could be difficult with something like .wtf [08:52:20] or something they won't recognize [08:52:25] why I chose .com [08:52:28] > wtf? what the (censored) [08:52:35] > lol [08:52:41] not necessarily, it has a negative connotation attached to it but you won't die if you get a .tk, .cf, .ml & co. [08:52:55] I have a couple of .tk and .cf's I use for testing [08:52:59] Also, .io and .me cost wayyy too much [08:53:00] or for short URLs [08:53:07] > believe it or not [08:53:13] > i have a .info domain [08:53:23] Isn't .info cheap these days? [08:53:25] > 21 dollars per year... [08:53:28] oh nvm [08:53:30] o [08:53:30] lol [08:53:32] since when [08:53:37] > 3 years? [08:53:40] I thought they were like $5 lol [08:53:41] > nah 2 and a bit [08:53:44] last I remember [08:53:58] > and thats the cheapest plan [08:53:59] also don't check domains on GoDaddy [08:54:03] cough https://domains.google [08:54:03] [url] Google Domains – Register Your Domain Name – Google Domains | domains.google [08:54:16] Command sent from Discord by hi :>: [08:54:16] .google? [08:54:17] I learned when I was looking for domains previously that GoDaddy snatches domains [08:54:28] oh or CloudFlare is a domain registrar now [08:54:37] thank goodness it wasn't my personal domains they snatched [08:54:51] just an online gaming community that never came to fruition [08:54:55] > its probably also because inflation because its in thai baht in the webite i bought it [08:55:07] I always check tld prices with random strings now [08:55:09] > so should be 15 [08:55:23] +1, I've used Google since forever [08:55:35] ew Google [08:55:44] You have to transfer in a domain I think, you can't buy domains outright from them [08:55:49] I go Namecheap for everything [08:55:55] ooh no you can now! 😄 [08:56:03] Oh what 👀 [08:56:10] hoo boy. anybody want .ai for $80/year? [08:56:20] https://www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/products/registrar/ [08:56:21] [url] Cloudflare Registrar | New Domain Registration | Cloudflare | www.cloudflare.com [08:56:24] I nearly bought a .ai a few years ago lol [08:56:27] agentis.ai [08:56:29] I was so close! [08:56:33] had to stop myself [08:56:35] That would've been great [08:56:49] wait idea [08:56:54] Thanks for the heads up! [08:57:03] dang [08:57:05] no .ta [08:57:06] :( [08:57:10] I wanted dako.ta [08:57:38] what about dro.ss [08:57:49] I thought there's no ss cctld? [08:57:49] > south sudan [08:57:54] I think there is? [08:57:57] whoa what [08:57:58] Sudan [08:58:07] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ss [08:58:07] [wikipedia] .ss | ".ss is the designated country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for South Sudan in the Domain Name System of the Internet. It is derived from the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for South Sudan, which is SS. According to CIO East Africa, the TLD was allocated on 10 August 2011 following the country's declaration of independence from Sudan. The TLD was registered on 31 August 2011, but not added to the DNS root zone […]" [08:58:09] > except the registar's [08:58:10] > https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/931109856872652810/unknown.png [08:58:12] Lol it almost got rejected [08:58:24] for potential association with Nazi SS [08:58:28] > south sudan aka world's newest country [08:58:30] > 2011 [08:58:51] dro.ss might be real nice for my wiki presence tho [08:58:58] that's be pretty snazzy [08:59:24] :o [08:59:34] or maybe justani.ng [09:00:46] > surprised that isnt taken [09:01:01] > the goverment of dakota hasnt took it [09:01:02] cuz ta isn't valid cctld [09:01:04]