[02:13:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> Please be patient.
[02:33:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑> https://twitter.com/cssrwrwk/status/1509720567653445641?t=dlynN_va3pLjaHNKDOn7sQ&s=09
[02:33:57] <MirahezeBot>	 [Twitter] 城市酸儒文人挖坑 (@cssrwrwk): https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1509720212077105155/pu/vid/1280x720/jarS7V12Z6fIzgzK.mp4?tag=12 | 0 RTs | 0 ♥s | Posted: 2022-04-01 - 02:33:27UTC
[02:59:03] <Tintle>	 @Agent: I'm pretty sure that guy just wants to spread Chinese propaganda
[03:04:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> I think we're done here. Both sides are bickering excessively and these conversations are not conducive to anything useful. You must remember after all that we are on a Discord server about a wiki farm, not a political discussion server. As such, for the purposes of moderation, a temporary moratorium on politics is decreed for 2 weeks due to this excessive and needless back and forth between all parties that has be
[03:05:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> Unbelievable that he quarrelled with that guy for a whole night
[03:05:54] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> That guy is just a b**ch
[03:06:06] <Tintle>	 he is lol
[03:06:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> And I told him to ignore
[03:06:13] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> Okay stop here
[03:06:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> Unbelievable that he (the Chinese) quarrelled with that guy for a whole night (edited)
[03:07:40] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> That guy (Probably from South America?) is just a b**ch (edited)
[03:08:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> @GT610 watch your language, personal attacks are prohibited
[03:08:15] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> Okay
[03:08:36] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑> may need #political for this
[03:09:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> As I said, we're a Discord server for a *wiki farm*, not politics. I don't think that's needed.
[03:09:11] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑> OK
[03:10:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Tintle> Also, it was so disgusting that he sent me private messages the other day... I just blocked him
[03:10:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑> I don't know who blocked me
[03:10:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑> You can't hear the Internationale in English
[03:11:19] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> Okay let's just stop here
[03:12:17] <Tintle>	 I feel very sad that many Chinese people are totally brainwashed to support a person that killed many people... two of them in here are enough
[03:12:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑> How many Michael Jackson songs have I listened to? I've heard songs from Nazi Germany and political songs from capitalist countries
[03:12:33] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Tintle> Not only a person, but a whole system
[03:12:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> Come on Tintle, stop
[03:12:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑> as I know there are three Chinese people here
[03:13:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> Disconverse please
[03:13:11] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑> I will stop if he stop first
[03:13:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> Alright, great. Next person who continues gets muted
[03:14:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Tintle> Btw, what happened with Orain? It was a wiki farm too or something like that.
[03:14:36] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> Got hacked, went down and since two longtime Orain users founded Miraheze a month before, a lot of people came over to Miraheze
[03:15:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> I wrote a whole explanation on the topic on the SN not too long ago
[03:16:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑> what is orain?
[03:16:21] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> A wiki farm which predates Miraheze
[03:17:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑> This is not well known in Chinese wiki circles
[03:18:26] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> This was nearly a decade ago and it shutdown so many years ago that I'd be surprised if anyone still remembered it
[03:18:43] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> Many longtime Miraheze users actually come from Orain such as John, Reception and others
[03:19:03] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> I actually started off back in Orain many years back and moved to Miraheze when it fell
[03:20:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Tintle> I suggest to not allow non-Latin letters anymore
[03:21:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Tintle> I suggest to not allow non-Latin letters anymore in usernames (edited)
[03:21:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Tintle> Maybe I'm not the appropriate person to suggest that because I don't have an account on Miraheze
[03:21:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Tintle> But anyway, I do.
[03:24:20] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> No
[03:24:33] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> You should respect others' freedom
[03:24:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> Using non-Latin characters is user's freedom (If system supports)
[03:25:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Tintle> Miraheze is a private enterprise, not the state
[03:25:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Tintle> So technically, it's freedom too, as long as a government is not involved
[03:27:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> It's truly inappropriate for you to give this suggestion, as you don't have an account on Miraheze
[03:27:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> Anyway, if not illegal, choosing a username is user's freedom and cannot be intervened
[03:28:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> We're thinking of implementing a system where users can choose a username in Latin too alongside their username in a non-Latin keyboard
[03:32:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> You mean Latin letters will be supported?
[03:32:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> I remembered that MediaWiki supports non-English letters by default
[03:33:11] <dmehus>	 I find non-Latin usernames confusing and hard to distinguish, too, but I personally would not support any regime which forces users to use Latin usernames
[03:34:11] <dmehus>	 Wikis, could, however, have a local username policy (ex. Meta Wiki, due to the global implications there, as it's a global/central wiki) prohibiting non-Latin usernames
[03:35:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> Users are global
[03:36:01] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GT610> Prohibiting users on Meta using non-Latin means prohibiting it globally
[03:42:38] <dmehus>	 @GT610, yes, that's why it *couldn't* be a Meta policy. It'd have to be a global policy amendment in Meta's case to be effective on Meta
[03:43:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> The moratorium has been, hesistantly, rescinded following conferring with a non-moderator but now 5 day kickbans will be issued in their place following this severely unruly behavior
[03:43:37] <dmehus>	 Agent: 👍 to that. The other approach was overly blunt
[03:43:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> If you say so
[03:51:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <pancake 🎀> Miraheze is not a politics forum and if you want to discuss politics you should probably go to politics subreddit at Reddit - not the Miraheze's weird chatrooms
[03:52:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <pancake 🎀> There's other stuff on Miraheze to be worked on and shitposting around politics is not one of them.
[03:56:12] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> also
[03:56:27] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> the suggestion would make more sense to be ASCII characters
[03:56:36] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> rather than all latin letters
[03:58:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <pancake 🎀> well that's a discrimination based on the language ability, which is obviously... against the CoC
[03:58:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <pancake 🎀> probably should move on
[05:38:55] <Reception123>	 dmehus: I haven't read the full conversation but I imagine you do support my idea of allowing users to set an alternative Latin name that would display alongside their non-Latin name?
[06:51:52] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Insider10> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/959344331142094878/Region.png
[08:04:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> I do suggest that user could use non-Latin name like Chinese, Japanese and etc
[08:08:45] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> OOPS, why so much got banned from the server, showed in #mod-log ?
[08:08:48] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> What did I missed
[12:07:35] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> whoosh, no idea
[12:08:21] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> I know that the guy with hanzi in its name was a bit... exaggerated, but the others I have no clue
[13:04:08] <YamanoteLine>	 Can this message be relayed to Discord?
[13:15:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <TheBurningPrincess> It is
[13:41:43] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <GTBOT> Make 965, 328 (and surrounding areas) purple in r/place
[15:00:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> Could I chat about Mediawiki here? @Agent ?
[15:00:21] <ugochimobi>	 Sure
[15:01:09] <Agent>	 About general MediaWiki, sure
[15:11:31] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> like how general MediaWiki? Could I chat setting up a self-hosted wiki?
[15:16:31] <ugochimobi>	 Yeah, that's okay here
[15:16:46] <ugochimobi>	 Since it's -offtopic
[15:18:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> Yes you can
[15:19:03] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> We've had various users use -offtopic as an MW support channel lol
[15:23:13] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <TheBurningPrincess> @Jst Tan What do you want to know?
[15:25:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> 🤣
[15:25:15] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> it is active here so why not
[15:25:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> I wanna to test hosting my own wiki farm (for my another group for fun), but I wonder how to do it
[15:26:54] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> and doesn’t want to compete or do any effect to Miraheze through so don’t worry
[16:05:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <TheBurningPrincess> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Wiki_farm  may help
[16:05:04] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Manual:Wiki family - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org
[16:05:05] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Category:Wiki farm - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org
[16:05:19] <Reception123>	 It's more complicated than you think I'm afraid
[16:05:34] <Reception123>	 even hosting a single wiki by yourself is not the easiest thing, a wiki farm is another level
[16:06:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <TheBurningPrincess> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation_guide @Jst Tan Read the I linked for some basic info, it took a while for me to set up 1 wiki
[16:06:08] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Manual:Installation guide - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org
[16:06:40] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <TheBurningPrincess> Reception123 I think I have installed single wikis 3 times, once on Windows, twice on Linuyx
[16:07:09] <Reception123>	 ah, using windows to host is quite rare I think
[16:07:42] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <TheBurningPrincess> That ended badly and with a lot of screaming
[16:08:11] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <TheBurningPrincess> Linux never failed me with wiki hosting
[16:10:12] <darkmatterman450>	 Reception123 You around to see a DM I left you on Discord, or is this the wrong time to ask?
[16:11:20] <Reception123>	 I can have a look
[16:11:56] <darkmatterman450>	 Reception123 Alright then.
[16:12:06] <Reception123>	 Done
[16:12:41] <darkmatterman450>	 Saw the message.
[16:16:33] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> I found the manual for wiki family too. But I saw there are basic principle and many more,do I needed to follow all of the steps in the page or I could set a wiki farm up by using the basic principle?
[16:16:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> Sorry if it soind strange, I kinda confused
[16:42:16] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <TheBurningPrincess> I think the basic stuff can work, but you may have to google or ask on IRC if things go wrong
[16:56:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> so I could use the basic principle:
[16:56:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family#Basic_principles
[16:56:48] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Manual:Wiki family - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org
[16:57:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> As listed here?
[16:58:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> also how to join the IRC channel? I never use IRC before actually
[16:58:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <TheBurningPrincess> I think it looks like you *may* be able to set up using that stuff
[16:59:13] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <TheBurningPrincess> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_on_IRC - there are links to the I*RC channels, mediwiki aslo has a discord I think
[16:59:13] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] MediaWiki on IRC - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org
[17:07:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> There hv but it is more inactive then this
[17:07:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <TheBurningPrincess> Mediawiki discord can be activbe
[17:10:01] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> Miraheze here is more active lol
[17:10:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <TheBurningPrincess> https://discord.com/invite/ZrV2Ex9
[17:10:02] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] MediaWiki | discord.com
[17:10:16] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> I am in it 🤣
[17:10:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterBladeMan4000> Same here.
[17:10:45] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <TheBurningPrincess> I may help, but my knowage is limted
[17:11:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> Limited is okay for me too
[17:11:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <TheBurningPrincess> I managed to set up wikis three times, (4 I think) but not a farm
[17:12:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> so I just only needed to follow what showed in Basic Principle only? And then could start a wiki farm?
[17:12:17] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> Oh cool.
[17:13:24] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Jst Tan> I think setting up a wiki and a farm is similar