[03:36:40] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑☭> so i did not share it,but paladox let me share it,so i shared
[17:22:19] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> @Lake Windows is *okay* to me, but I prefer Linux
[17:22:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> i use both
[17:22:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> my main machine is running on windows 11, and my laptop on Zorin OS
[17:23:11] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I do miss getting BYOND to work out of the box unlike on Linux
[17:23:20] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I used to like playing Space Station 13
[17:26:17] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> @Lake I kinda wonder why PHP stuff is more stable on Linux (And why BYOND and Wine hate each other_
[17:27:10] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> not sure, but in contrast, python backend is fine on windows, at least in my experience
[17:27:19] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> I use django without problems
[17:27:40] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> What is django?@
[17:27:52] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> it's a Python web framework
[17:28:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> Oh, hm, does Pythion have anything like Wordpress?
[17:28:27] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> Hmm, I'm not sure. Django is more like equivalent to Laravel in the PHP world
[17:28:33] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I would think a static website would be possable using Pytion
[17:28:45] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I would think a static website would be possable using Pytion (edited)
[17:28:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> Thinking about it, HTML is enough for that
[17:29:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> if you want just a simple static website I think you should use Jekyll or HUGO
[17:29:23] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I mean, Orion's Arm does appear to be a static website from what I can tell
[17:29:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> Jekyll could be extremely useful because it's already baked on GitHub Pages
[17:29:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> so you don't need to configure ruby or anything like that
[17:29:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I host Wordpress and Mediawiki on  a cheap VPS for my site
[17:30:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> well, if you could afford the pro plan on GitHub, I think you could use Jekyll there and private the repo as well, so you don't have to worry about much
[17:30:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I do find updating links on a static site painful (my Taerel landing page is static, and not updated in 2 years)
[17:31:26] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> I'd use a static website generator more for simple things like a blog
[17:31:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> or documentation
[17:31:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I pronly should update that landing page some day
[17:32:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> there's also Astro for JS, which looks very good
[17:32:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> Would a static site be possable HTML and CSS only
[17:32:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> My single landing page is just HTML/CSS but I wonder if a website with many pages work that way
[17:33:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> yes, jekyll does that already
[17:33:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> Ah, that is intersding
[17:33:23] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> the way Jekyll works is, you can use things like markdown or whatever, and it generates your pages
[17:33:33] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> Sweet, does it work on Linux?
[17:33:48] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I mean, I do have a CSS Q./
[17:34:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> yes
[17:34:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> if you want to use yourself you need to install Ruby though
[17:34:15] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> you don't need to code in Ruby but Jekyll is made with Ruby
[17:34:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> https://taerel.com/ - I was thinking, could you make me a nicer layout?
[17:34:31] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> https://taerel.com/ - I was thinking, could you make me a nicer layout? with a working background (edited)
[17:35:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> It is *very* outdated
[17:35:20] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> possibly, but I will contact you later about this on DM, ok? 😛
[17:35:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> Yes please, I can give you my soruce code as well
[17:36:12] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> no problem
[17:36:13] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> Jekyll is very easy to work with
[17:36:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> Hugo is also another popular static website generator, but I never used it
[17:36:26] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> it's made with GO
[17:36:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> What is your website?
[17:36:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> <https://www.lakelimbo.ga/>
[17:36:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> this one I used Next.js for stupid reasons and I will remake it later
[17:36:51] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Lake's portfolio | www.lakelimbo.ga
[17:38:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> Lovly site
[17:41:48] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I mean, I am trying my best to keep to a theme for all Taerel stuff, as to be a "branding" of sorts
[17:44:15] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> @Lake Tbh I feel like a lot of "Song contest" wikis are the same, and I feel that many "Community Project" wikis never get off the ground
[17:45:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> honestly it's quite difficult for a wiki to take off
[17:45:49] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> especially if it's some obscure niche
[17:46:17] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I do feel a wiki needs basic content and a food concept and plan to take off
[17:46:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I do feel a wiki needs basic content and a good concept and plan to take off (edited)
[17:48:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> Mine had a concept for my world ever since I started, I wrote the basic lore to help guide writers, and had a guy give me the first 300k free, and I have aways planned the content out from the start, scope getting bigger and more ambitious over time @Lake
[17:50:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> Aslo, how would one do mobile freindly navboxes?
[17:54:32] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> the thing about mobile design is that you should think about "mobile-first"
[17:54:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> that is, when building anything with html/css, think of it firstly in a small screen, like the one of a phone
[17:54:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I mean, I would think making them only show on desktop may be the best idea
[17:55:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> and as the screen gets larger you make adapt it
[17:55:17] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> because the reverse it's usually less efficient
[17:55:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> A 900 place navbox may look awful on mobile
[17:56:26] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> So, how would you handle navboxes in a "mobile first" way?
[17:57:17] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> well, usually infoboxes do not change much between screens, the only difference is that on mobile it will occupy 100% of the width
[17:57:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> OH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NAVBOXES
[17:57:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> i read infobox i'm stupid kill me
[17:58:21] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> there's a quick trick for navbox, it's not mobile first, but it works
[17:58:21] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> It may need to be collapsed  by default
[17:58:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> use a media query to change the display of the table rows and cells when the screen is small
[17:59:20] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> Neat, never though of that idea
[18:00:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Lake> a better way IMO wwould be using CSS grids, but that's much more complicated for someone that does not know how the grid works
[18:02:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> Yes, best an skilled user of CSS deal with the navboxes
[18:39:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> @Lake I was thinking for my navboxes a layout like this
[18:39:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> 
[18:39:42] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:39:43] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                                                      Navbox Groups                                                         |
[18:39:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:39:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zu'aan Tribes |  Jakl Tribal Zu'Aan , Nayr Tribal Zu'Aan     |
[18:39:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  | Cani Landmass | --------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:39:48] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zu'Aan Cities | Ikal City Zu'Aan, Daik City Zu'Aan              |
[18:39:49] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:40:21] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> @Lake I was thinking for my navboxes a layout like this, or do you think the group type (tribe/city) and landmasses should be the other way around
[18:40:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> 
[18:40:23] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:40:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                                                      Navbox Groups                                                         |
[18:40:26] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:40:27] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zu'aan Tribes |  Jakl Tribal Zu'Aan , Nayr Tribal Zu'Aan     |
[18:40:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  | Cani Landmass | --------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:40:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zu'Aan Cities | Ikal City Zu'Aan, Daik City Zu'Aan              |
[18:40:31] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (edited)
[18:41:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> @Lake I was thinking for my navboxes a layout like this, or do you think the group type (tribe/city) and landmasses should be the other way around
[18:41:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> 
[18:41:31] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> A. 
[18:41:32] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:41:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                                                      Navbox Groups                                                         |
[18:41:35] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:41:36] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zu'aan Tribes |  Jakl Tribal Zu'Aan , Nayr Tribal Zu'Aan     |
[18:41:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  | Cani Landmass | --------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:41:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zu'Aan Cities | Ikal City Zu'Aan, Daik City Zu'Aan              |
[18:41:40] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:41:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> 
[18:41:43] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> B.
[18:41:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> 
[18:41:45] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:41:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                                                      Navbox Groups                                                         |
[18:41:48] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:41:49] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Cani Landmass  |  Jakl Tribal Zu'Aan , Nayr Tribal Zu'Aan     |
[18:41:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  | Zu'aan Tribes    | --------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:41:52] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zelan Landmass s | Ikal City Zu'Aan, Daik City Zu'Aan              |
[18:41:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (edited)
[18:41:54] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> @Lake I was thinking for my navboxes a layout like this, or do you think the group type (tribe/city) and landmasses should be the other way around
[18:41:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> 
[18:41:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> A. 
[18:41:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:41:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                                                      Navbox Groups                                                         |
[18:42:01] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:42:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zu'aan Tribes |  Jakl Tribal Zu'Aan , Nayr Tribal Zu'Aan     |
[18:42:03] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  | Cani Landmass | --------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:42:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zu'Aan Cities | Ikal City Zu'Aan, Daik City Zu'Aan              |
[18:42:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:42:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> 
[18:42:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> B.
[18:42:10] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> 
[18:42:11] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:42:12] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                                                      Navbox Groups                                                              |
[18:42:14] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:42:15] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Cani Landmass   |  Jakl Tribal Zu'Aan , Nayr Tribal Zu'Aan     |
[18:42:16] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  | Zu'aan Tribes    | ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:42:18] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zelan Landmass | Ikal City Zu'Aan, Daik City Zu'Aan               |
[18:42:19] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (edited)
[18:42:20] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> @Lake I was thinking for my navboxes a layout like this, or do you think the group type (tribe/city) and landmasses should be the other way around
[18:42:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> 
[18:42:23] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> A. 
[18:42:24] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:42:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                                                      Navbox Groups                                                         |
[18:42:27] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:42:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zu'aan Tribes |  Jakl Tribal Zu'Aan , Nayr Tribal Zu'Aan     |
[18:42:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  | Cani Landmass | --------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:42:31] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zu'Aan Cities | Ikal City Zu'Aan, Daik City Zu'Aan              |
[18:42:32] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:42:33] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> 
[18:42:35] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> B.
[18:42:36] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> 
[18:42:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |                                                      Navbox Groups                                                              |
[18:43:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> @Lake I was thinking for my navboxes a layout like this, or do you think the group type (tribe/city) and landmasses should be the other way around
[18:43:40] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> 
[18:43:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> A. 
[18:43:42] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
[18:43:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                                                      Navbox Groups                                                          |
[18:43:45] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
[18:43:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zu'aan Tribes |  Jakl Tribal Zu'Aan , Nayr Tribal Zu'Aan      |
[18:43:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  | Cani Landmass | --------------------------------------------------------------------|
[18:43:49] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zu'Aan Cities | Ikal City Zu'Aan, Daik City Zu'Aan               |
[18:43:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
[18:43:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> 
[18:43:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> B.
[18:43:54] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> 
[18:43:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
[18:43:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                                                      Navbox Groups                                                              |
[18:43:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
[18:43:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Cani Landmass   |  Jakl Tribal Zu'Aan , Nayr Tribal Zu'Aan     |
[18:44:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  | Zu'aan Tribes    | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
[18:44:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |                               | Zelan Landmass | Ikal City Zu'Aan, Daik City Zu'Aan               |
[18:44:03] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth>  |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| (edited)
[18:44:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> Sorry about the flooding, wanted to show ASCII mockups