[06:44:32] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <cookie guy> does anyone here have an electric car? if so, what type?
[06:44:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <cookie guy> curious what everyone thinks of Tesla and Elon Musk now because of the whole Twitter fiasco
[08:07:26] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <max20091> I don't use car but hybrid bikes
[08:08:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <max20091> Electric car is mostly a scam unless you are in China which everything fron repair to battery is cheap
[08:10:40] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <max20091> They are razor and blade
[08:10:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <max20091> They are razor and blades (edited)
[08:17:21] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <max20091> The 1% vs 99%
[08:18:10] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <username 767676> Hey, guys, I can’t go into the Polcompball Discord server
[08:19:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <max20091> Works normally for me
[18:46:32] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> <@259068169149349889> Moving this to off-topic, but  ChatGPT is a great example of where the current state of AI runs against trying to perform human tasks.
[18:46:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <aidzymosan> AI developing was a matter of time and to be expected, and in a better world machines doing some menial jobs would've been something to look forward to, but we don't live in it unfortunately
[18:46:48] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> It's a revolution as far as generating content, but it's incredibly general in most cases
[18:46:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <aidzymosan> sorry to chime in like that
[18:46:54] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> And is also very good at confidently lying
[18:47:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> To fully replace humans, it has to be able to consistently provide accurate, clear and trustable information.  Without any one of the three, that's a recipe for a bad bad time
[18:53:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> I think ai is at a point where a lot more automation *could* happen with the right application
[18:53:21] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> however it is still often being applied in places where it is far too premature, ie, ai based content moderation
[18:53:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> and there is no way I would support the modern standard of ai automatically processing wiki requests, an early hope for the platform that's long been set aside
[18:54:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> however between ai art and marvels like ai generating working code or truly useful text, I think things are going to get much more interesting. But no, not at the point to obsolete jobs in general or entire markets, except possibly small-time artistry depending how that develops.
[18:55:12] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> @aidzymosan it's an open conversation, no issue chiming in at all
[21:45:32] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Neo Qwerty> A big part of why I don't like AI generated art and text is... 
[21:45:33] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Neo Qwerty> 
[21:45:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Neo Qwerty> Well, one, it breaks most Creative Commons licenses that use attribution or non-commercial (I haven't seen AI art disclose their learnset databases or disclaim who and where they got their stuff from, and a lot is commercial), and two, the people scraping for the learnsets to further tech don't seem to grasp "for science!" is not a good replacement for "hi we're [research group], could you implement a way for 
[21:45:36] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Neo Qwerty> 
[21:45:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Neo Qwerty> That said, AI learning seems poised more as assistants than as job-stealers for now (and as copyright nuisances because the people training them aren't thinking beyond their own nose). 
[21:45:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Neo Qwerty> 
[21:45:40] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Neo Qwerty> I've seen some interesting news about AI helping narrow down medical conditions and giving advice to practicioners (and being double-checked by a human), and I want to see more of THAT kind of AI learning.