[00:40:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> ah thats good
[06:00:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> I may disagree with the -ballfolk and -humanfolk on a few things, but having personifications of things is sometimes fun.  "Freeware, the entity" is entertaining.
[06:07:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Cabra> Since I first learned of the whole thing I've thought that ball-ifications of abstract concepts are funnier than those of political ideologies/countries
[06:08:21] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> is there a naziball
[06:08:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Cabra> Once saw a "hooliganismball" and almost spat tea on my keyboard.
[06:08:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> thats probably going to come off weird
[06:08:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> i ask because i think it'd be interesting what comics/joke people make with one
[06:09:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Cabra> There's balls for even the most obscure political ideologies, even fake ones. So yeah.
[06:09:14] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> got it lmao
[06:10:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Cabra> If you want to learn what new wacky political ideologies kids are identifying with these days just take a 15 minute trip down to pollcompballanarchy 😛
[06:13:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> alright lmao
[06:23:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> It is a punishment for the eyes, but an instructive one.
[06:23:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Don't dive too deep, on the polcompball site, that's just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.
[06:25:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> fandom is run by complete and utter idiots.
[06:26:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> 
[06:26:01] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> it started as a wiki host. most people, when asked what fandom.com is, say it hosts wikis. but when it was acquired, the new owners had some stupid idea to make a site of "fan content", but didnt want to start a whole new business for this, so they forced their terrible idea onto a community of wiki users, redesigned every wiki against their will giving them no options to opt out, refused to let them move to
[06:26:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> 
[06:26:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> but, of course, before fandom could do all of the plan, they had to eliminate the competition. they start with the SEO, to shove down miraheze and every other non-profit or self hosted wiki. then they acquire gamepedia. once all the non-profit wiki hosts are hidden from public view and gamepedia is no longer an option to switch to, they begin using a unified community platform (their UCP garbage) as an excus
[06:26:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> 
[06:26:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> nearly everyone on community central hated it, fandom didn't care. im pretty sure someone got a couple hundred signatures on a petition to bring live chat back, fandom still didnt care. they started with a usable, happy community, and now they've re-designed it into something else entirely.
[06:26:43] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> now, when you go to fandom.com, you see a bunch of articles with theories about random games and books and TV shows that you've never heard of, with wikis buried at the bottom.
[06:28:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> It's very unfortunate that Fandom has taken that route
[06:28:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <LuciferianThomas> Fandom is a money making machine, not a site for human reading
[06:31:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> yes
[06:31:48] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> their only active content moderation of genuinely terrible content is either done by SOAP or local wiki admins
[06:31:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> fandom very very rarely intervenes with anything that doesnt profit them
[06:32:43] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <LuciferianThomas> They do, if you move away from them they don't like it lolll
[06:33:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> lmao yeah but that does profit them
[06:33:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> its my point!
[07:33:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> to give you an idea of how abandoned and poorly run the fandom.com "news" website is
[07:34:24] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> they messed up the capitalization here (likely due to how this is dynamically loaded in) and either dont know that its happening or dont care because nobody reads it
[07:34:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1064809903509733396/image.png
[07:34:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> fandom.com is from what i can tell a poorly designed fork of wordpress
[07:40:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> nobody cared about fandom site when platform was still wikis, so they enforced it, then people still don't care and started do shit like videos on top etc
[07:41:13] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> and people *still* don't care
[07:43:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> seems like discussions is the only successful new feature, but it was lame for all the old users, including me, who weren't aware about new users using it for a long time
[07:47:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> yes
[07:47:10] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> this reminds me of what zuck did with meta
[07:47:24] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> he had some new idea so to test it he forced it on a random audience using an unrelated product
[07:47:40] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> nobody at fandom wants all this garbage
[07:47:42] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> they want wikis
[07:47:45] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> that is literally all
[07:55:10] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> for obvious reasons i hope someone doesnt take this as a genuine call to action
[07:55:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> but it'd be very funny if fandom's source code was leaked
[07:55:52] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> they're taking mediawiki's code and very few changes are made outside of monetizing it
[07:59:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Eh, they're what they are, we're what we are, they were explicitly started as a for-profit venture by the same person who founded Wikipedia.
[07:59:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> i know who they are, and i don't mind what they started with
[07:59:43] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> what they've become is another story
[08:00:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> like some ads so that the developers can pay their living expenses, thats good and all, the way it is now, they stop you moving your wiki to other sites, the ads are aggressive and invasive, they refuse to release source code despite being a fork of an open source product, etc.
[08:01:11] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> also their policies are terrible they dont let you customize your wiki much in any way and dont give your community very much control
[08:01:24] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> I don't begrudge them that choice and I certainly don't like the weird contortion they became, but I won't lose sleep over the tumerous thing that they are now.
[08:02:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> yeah i know that there are bigger probleme
[08:02:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> If we can get more folks emigrating, all the better.
[08:02:15] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> yea
[11:46:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑☭> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1064873376335802438/16b003328280daa.jpg
[11:46:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑☭> confess everything without having received a single blow of the bamboo
[11:47:31] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑☭> The front foot said he didn't organize, and the back foot confessed🤣
[12:12:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑☭> it was used in zhwiki for a long time
[12:13:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑☭> *has been
[12:45:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Ooyama> https://youtu.be/30zPRaiVIuU
[12:45:56] <MirahezeBot>	 [YouTube] ⁨Weird Touhou Wikis on Fandom⁩ | 31m 45s | Channel: ⁨MegaFrog⁩ | 31,068 views | 2022-07-07 - 16:00:01UTC
[16:09:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> im aware
[17:46:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> To continue the general off-topic, a fun history dive into things that sounds like words but aren't, this whole dang song:
[17:46:42] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> 
[17:46:43] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisencolinensinainciusol
[17:46:44] <MirahezeBot>	 [wikipedia] Prisencolinensinainciusol | ""Prisencolinensinainciusol" (stylized on the single cover as "PRİSENCÓLİNENSİNÁİNCIÚSOL") is a song composed by the Italian singer Adriano Celentano, and performed by Celentano and his wife Claudia Mori, a singer/actress-turned-record producer. It was released as a single in 1972. Both the name of the song and its lyrics are gibberish but are intended to sound like English in an […]"
[17:48:52] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <florigon> oh haha yeah ive heard that one its so weird
[17:49:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Han> it goes so hard though
[17:50:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <florigon> its trippy feeling like its english that i cant understand for some reason
[17:52:33] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> I think that's part of what makes it so uniquely good. 😄
[18:29:40] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> That's quite the throwback!
[18:29:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> I remember listening to one of the songs in there when I was younger and I could never remember the name of it
[18:30:03] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> Now I know what the song is
[18:30:36] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <florigon> you mean in simlish or the original version?
[18:30:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <florigon> they had these in the games
[18:32:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> The original version
[18:32:17] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <florigon> oh lol ok
[18:34:48] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <florigon> which one was it?
[18:41:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <tombricks> lol is wikipedia down
[18:41:18] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <florigon> not for me
[18:41:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <tombricks> for me and another person it is
[18:41:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <tombricks> hm
[18:42:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <tombricks> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1064977946118463561/image.png
[18:42:42] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Han> huh, I'm also getting a similar error
[18:42:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <tombricks> and people on twitter
[18:42:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <tombricks> the apocalypse is here
[18:42:54] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <tombricks> the end is nigh
[18:43:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <tombricks> hm
[18:43:19] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <tombricks> @florigon @Han are either f you signed in?
[18:44:23] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <florigon> i wasn't and now i am and it still works
[18:44:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Han> I was signed in. refreshed the page then got the error. just checked again and it's back
[18:44:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <tombricks> its working again
[18:46:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Han> mightve been just a hiccup?
[18:48:52] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <tombricks> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#ConfigException gwa
[18:48:53] <MirahezeBot>	 [wikipedia] Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) - ConfigException | "Tracked in Phabricator Task T327196 Within the last hour, both of the browsers on which I'm logged in (as User:Naraht) (Chrome & FF) are giving errors that look like MediaWiki internal error. Original exception: [bde13a11-c59e-4e46-8642-640488f9c898] 2023-01-17 18:35:14: Fatal exception of type "ConfigException" Exception caught inside exception handler. Set […]"
[23:47:17] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> The office action was probably a bit blunt
[23:48:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <florigon> Unless the reason for the ban directly relates to MH as a company, i dont see why it should affect a MH article
[23:50:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> It doesn't
[23:52:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <florigon> So if all the sources seem good enough and they keep denying, id start to suspect bias
[23:53:23] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <florigon> Although dont admins kind of review articles at random. And there are a lot of admins, id be surprised if everyone had a negative view of MH