[00:50:31] [discord] I dont't know where I can ask my question (I'm new to Discord and Miraheze) but can you tell me where i can get a high-quality picture of the "hosted by Miraheze", "powered by Mediawiki" and the license lables? I'm building up a Wiki for midwives and I need to print flyers for a congress. Thanks in advace 🙂 [01:19:05] [discord] can you link me your wiki [01:27:14] [discord] @Agent or @Reception123 may be able to help here [01:27:27] [discord] Esp with any licensing considerations [01:38:03] [discord] https://commons.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Powered_by_Miraheze.svg [01:38:04] [discord] [01:38:04] [url] File:Powered by Miraheze.svg - Miraheze Commons | commons.miraheze.org [01:38:05] [discord] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki-2020-button.svg [01:38:06] [url] File:MediaWiki-2020-button.svg - Wikimedia Commons | commons.wikimedia.org [01:38:06] [discord] [01:38:08] [discord] https://creativecommons.org/about/downloads/ [01:38:09] [url] Downloads - Creative Commons | creativecommons.org [01:38:09] [discord] This should cover it all [08:17:31] [discord] Honestly an annoying thing is PayPal collecting quite a lot on exchange and transfer [08:18:14] [discord] I'd really like to support regularly but the charge is really too much [08:18:48] [discord] If Miraheze finds a better payment alternative that charges less I'd be very glad to further support the project [08:20:24] [discord] straight to their bank account lol [08:20:45] [discord] (I know it's not better yeah) [08:22:17] You can do that [08:22:35] Depends on if you’re bank charges a fee for international [08:22:41] * RhinosF1 is not charged a fee [08:22:51] * RhinosF1 is in the UK anyway though [08:43:59] [discord] there's also GH Sponsors that allows for one time donations @LuciferianThomas [09:30:00] [discord] As far as I know, Github doesn't take any fees for donations to MH [09:31:52] [discord] GitHub takes Paypal as well, if I'm correct. [09:32:43] [discord] You can pay with credit card [09:33:30] [discord] They cover the processing fees. Might even cover paypal fees. I think they do actually [09:34:06] [discord] They say 100% of your donation goes to the organization [09:36:41] [discord] ahhhhhh [09:37:08] [discord] right, last time I also did it through GitHub, must've calculated simply by rate and thought there was charges [09:38:19] [discord] added an $18 per month recurring donation, have some coffee! [10:28:41] [discord] Thanks a lot, that's really helpful! (As is said, that's more of a metaphorical/virtual cup of coffee as funds currently go to servers only!) [16:05:42] [discord] if i had more money to donate i also would donate [16:07:07] [discord] however for now i dont have the money so im just going to donate my time you could say! [19:35:38] [discord] i kinda wonder if it'd be possible to re-create fandom message wall features through js [19:38:08] [discord] from what i can tell [19:38:21] [discord] most of the fandom message wall and discussions etc is generated through the frontend w/ react [19:38:35] [discord] all the APIs and such do is store data [19:38:55] [discord] so you could probably create some kind of talk pages or something (similar to the @comment/massive string stuff fandom had pre-ucp) [19:39:05] [discord] to store messages [19:39:11] [discord] and use that as your pseudo-api [19:39:25] [discord] firefox apparently "decompiles" webpack or something (for lack of a better word) and i have most of fandom's react utils [19:39:34] [discord] and assets [19:39:42] [discord] of course i'd need to re-write them to avoid copyright infringement [19:44:44] [discord] im calling the project "mediawiki next generation social" and i'll find a way to simplify that name later [20:23:01] [discord] I do dislike how you can't view Fandom message wall history. on the other hand Wikipedia-style talk pages are not super intuitive at first. wikiHow has a pretty decent system imo. [20:24:02] [discord] yes well even if the reasons that people prefer fandom message walls over wikipedia or wikihow doesnt make sense, they still prefer it [20:30:10] [discord] You could probably name it WikiSocial or something [20:30:38] [discord] oh yes not arguing against that. Fandom's messaging wall is very intuitive especially for stuff like inserting links if you don't know wikitext. I imagine that it is particularly well-suited to fandom's target audience, which I am not [20:30:52] [discord] thats a good naming idea [20:32:59] [discord] maybe you can hijack DiscussionTools code to do that or something [20:34:58] [discord] im going to start off with fandom code [20:35:05] [discord] because fandom is the most difficult [20:35:15] [discord] and i need to figure out how to rewrite it just enough to not violate copyright laws [20:40:31] [discord] https://blog.google/technology/ai/bard-google-ai-search-updates/ [20:40:32] [url] Google AI updates: Bard and new AI features in Search | blog.google [20:40:41] [discord] the AI race begins! [20:40:46] [discord] Hahaha, I was copying this exact link and milliseconds from posting it [20:41:00] [discord] Wow, that's a funny coincidence 😄 [20:41:24] [discord] Yes! Excited to see that Google's moving on this space as well, hopefully it'll result in a better end product.. [20:41:25] [discord] But yeah, really curious to experiment and see if it's better/worse/similar to ChatGPT [20:41:48] [discord] yeah, competition is good as it forces both sides to try to outrank the other [20:42:13] [discord] I wonder when they'll release it more widely, even as alpha/beta. I don't think they can afford to wait much [20:48:58] [discord] You know, conversational sounds like controversial [20:50:32] [discord] indeed lmao [21:05:12] [discord] heres what i managed to re-create from fandom so far [21:05:12] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1072261703519182858/image.png [21:10:20] [discord] i decided to copy some css and the contents of a random message wall on the genshin fandom wiki to see how far i could go [21:10:28] [discord] surprisingly less broken than i thought [21:10:28] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1072263028470468809/image.png [21:56:58] [discord] It obviously looks like it's from Fandom, which is out of place for Miraheze [21:57:04] [discord] Try making it look Miraheze-like [22:24:52] [discord] of course [22:25:02] [discord] i will do that once im done with making the fandom stuff work [22:30:31] [discord] this will likely be a project that takes weeks to months to finish [22:30:50] [discord] the first thing i need to do is get the frontend html, css, and js working [22:30:58] [discord] during and after this i need to keep copyright and other issues in my mind [22:31:05] [discord] and work on addressing them [22:31:57] [discord] once i am certain that i have a working, functional, and legal (i.e., compliant with intellectual property and similar laws), i will start working on the backend of it, and turning it into a mediawiki extension (keep in mind that i have never made a mediawiki extension before now) [22:32:24] [discord] then i will need to test the mediawiki extension further not only for usability bugs but also security [22:32:33] [discord] then it may be ready for publish idrk probably more stpes [22:32:36] [discord] *steps [22:32:46] [discord] but that is why this will take a lot of time [22:34:47] [discord] the theory i have for how i can make this work as a mediawiki extension that will actually like a create a Message Wall: namespace (that cannot be manually edited without using the extension, cannot be subjected to page move vandalism, etc.) is to make some kind of hack with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Page_content_models and with the edit and move parser hooks and such but im probably going to wor [22:34:48] [url] Manual:Page content models - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org [22:42:57] [discord] i could also base it off of something similar to what SocialProfile does to replace user pages etc [22:43:09] [discord] i hope the extension can be compatible with socialprofile in some way