[00:06:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> That was directed to OrangeStar
[00:06:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Tali64> Ok, but I'm not OrangeStar, so why'd you reply to me
[00:07:50] <CosmicAlpha>	 Agent: OrangeStar had already disconnected.
[00:08:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Tali64> Did you like my bit about Agent said "Welcome back" and I repiled "I never left"
[01:12:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> if you can own several tech companies it shows being a business owner doesn't involve as much work as elon claims
[01:13:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> he spends most of his time shitposting on twitter while the site just burns in the background
[02:04:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <城市酸儒文人挖坑☭> Capital is profit driven, but I didn't expect to this
[02:13:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> It was an IRC side thing + an oops-reply, able to be disregarded
[12:16:44] <Orange_Star>	 I just saw https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/30041 and I was wondering, how do the people here feel about web3/NFTs/blockchains/cryptocurrency?
[12:24:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> "Good chance I get scammed."
[12:47:08] <RhinosF1>	 Orange_Star: a scam
[12:54:37] <Orange_Star>	 I also think it's a scam, just wanted to know what some of you thought about it.
[13:05:13] <Orange_Star>	 The wiki request got approved, I kinda think that we shouldn't give a platform to these people, but it can be fun to argue why it's BS and see how long it takes to get banned.
[13:29:45] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> well there's not too much reason to reject the wiki and not every aspect of web3 is 100% scam, but yes, a lot of scam running around there
[13:29:54] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> also a scam, people are told that they'll get from zero to rich but instead they burn out, this shit only makes rich ones richier, and nft is simply fuck up over artists
[13:30:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> it's just very experimental, not very useful, and doesn't have enough standards to curate it
[13:54:51] <Orange_Star>	 raidarr: the whole web3 thing has existed for quite some time now, yet nothing useful, nor any usecases have appeared, other than the pay-to-earn games, which is just another scam.
[13:55:41] <Orange_Star>	 what even is web3 supposed to be anyway? I think it's really just a marketing term.
[13:56:35] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gummiel> If it is really just gonna be about technical documentation and the like per their description, there really is no reason why it should not be allowed, but yeah probably a good idea to have someone keep a close watch on it, to make sure it doesn't take a wrong turn to outright scams
[15:58:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> In any case, we've had previous 'only documentation' requests related to web3 that turned out to be from folks actively involved in litigation related to crypto scams.
[15:58:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> So anything crypto/NFT/web3 does need a higher level of scrutiny.
[16:47:39] <Orange_Star>	 kadenawiki's mainpage has been created (https://kadena.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=4), looks promising so far /s
[16:54:15] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> At least it doesn't appear to be a fly-by-night rugpull operation.
[16:54:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Small blessings, I guess
[16:54:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gummiel> Pretty barebones tbh, looks almost like just a first draft, so hard to say anything specific
[17:05:09] <Orange_Star>	 Gummiel: if there's something these companies don't like is getting into the specifics.
[17:06:08] <Orange_Star>	 I doubt the mainpage will be expanded with any real content (no tech-buzzword-filled word salad) in the future.
[17:07:48] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Cabra> <https://wiki.cryptoroyale.one/wiki/Home> I ran into this one some time ago and whenever I'm reminded of it (like just now) I do a quick Google search to see if there's been a rug pull or not 😛
[17:10:54] <Orange_Star>	 A play to earn game, lol.
[17:18:45] <Orange_Star>	 Checkout their "detailed tokenomics" https://cryptoroyale.one/info/ROY.html
[17:19:30] <Orange_Star>	 You can absolutely cash out to real money, trust me bro.
[17:20:27] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> lol yeah, I remember seeing that wiki request too
[17:20:32] <Orange_Star>	 If only I had no morals at all and I only cared with getting as much money as possible...
[17:20:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> nothing in policy prohibits it so not much we can do
[17:21:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> unless you apply the "deceiving, defrauding or misleading" clause of the CP
[17:21:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> potentially
[17:23:19] <RhinosF1>	 I mean surely all crypto is misleading
[17:23:23] <Orange_Star>	 I mean, if you ask me this is deceiving people
[17:23:26] <RhinosF1>	 If we define crypto as a scam
[17:24:06] <Orange_Star>	 play-to-earn has the expectation that you'll be earning something, heavily implied to be currency most of the time.
[17:24:50] <Orange_Star>	 But like all of these kinds of games, what you're earning is some worthless cryptocurrency ("ROY", in this case).
[17:25:03] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gummiel> That is certainly where it could go, but is not guaranteed, so hence why imo should be kept a closer watch on than normal
[17:26:01] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gummiel> and yeah @Orange_Star basically, if something sounds too good to be true, it probably also is 🙂
[17:29:31] <Orange_Star>	 The only ones earning real money here is the developers, who sell you cryptos and in-game items, for real money, obviously. Good luck finding someone willing to exchange $$$ for "ROY"
[17:37:24] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Uh... actually... wouldn't this violate our commerce content policy?
[17:38:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Oh, disregard.  Every 'token-changing-hands' event is offsite, it's just prominently featured on every page.
[17:39:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Though whether you consider their custom domain of the wiki being a subdomain of the site where that's happening, that's tenuously 'offsite'
[17:58:42] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Cabra> Pretty funny when you consider the main page claims it is a fan-made wiki
[18:03:03] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Fans that also happen to be on the payroll. 😄
[18:14:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gummiel> They are just getting some "gifts" it's not a payroll 😛