[00:44:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Meteor> never understood what they based the best if used by date
[00:46:20] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> With a lot of them it's some mix of 'we never tested it for greater than this date and can't reliably say' and 'this is the usual minimum amount of time before there's any noticeable change, with 5% padding'
[01:31:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> i've never really tested it but i kept hearing how many people thought best if used by = expiry and i never believed it could be that bad until a friend of mine thought that best if used by = expiry
[01:32:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> there are only certain things where the expiry date can be taken literally, and in those cases you're gonna know very quickly that they're inedible anyway
[01:33:36] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> that said, I have a plastic bottle of peanut butter from 2008 and I dunno if I want to test that theory personally
[01:36:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gummiel> Though in any cases, they are usually rather put a bit too early, than a bit too late, for well what I think should be obvious reasons really
[01:42:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> its about food quality
[01:42:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> not food safety
[01:42:26] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> unless its the kind of product where the quality would likely decrease at the same rate as the safety
[01:53:20] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gummiel> It kinda both in most cases, depends on the specific product, which is the biggest factor though
[01:55:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> sadly im not sure if there's a standard for what they're supposed to base it on
[01:55:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> for nestle
[01:55:49] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> maybe they should base it on how hard the slaves worked-
[01:55:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> jk
[01:58:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Animal products are a whole other beast, literally.  Do not mess w/ poultry use-by dates.
[01:59:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> They've got *some* padding, but you do **not** want that kind of food poisoning.
[02:01:48] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> yea products that have expires on or use by dates etc
[02:01:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> you need to follow those
[02:02:42] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> if its products that say best if used by and arent realistically likely to expire on that date (like ice cream that says it will expire in a few months even when stored correctly etc) then assume its not expiry
[02:02:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> though use common sense
[02:03:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Meteor> now doing that with milk is like playing russian roulette
[02:03:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> lmaoo yea
[02:04:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Meteor> if u do that, you never know if its bad until its too late
[02:04:18] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> https://tenor.com/view/it-crowd-gif-10022014
[02:06:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Yeah, we had 2/3 of students at a local montessori school out for a dang month due to a raw milk + unsafe food handling fiasco.  Animal products are no joke.
[04:44:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> i just realized something
[04:44:01] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> this account is unbanned from .gg/fandom?
[04:44:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> thats a surprise
[05:27:45] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1081447873629147176/FB_IMG_1674479515841.png
[07:41:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> https://tenor.com/view/cat-24hours-gif-25425051
[13:25:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> i remember someone saying once that it should be called GNU instead of GNU/Linux
[13:25:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> because you don't call it Windows/NT or Mac OS/Darwin
[14:24:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> same rationale is why people call it just plain linux
[14:24:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> but gnu is not very snazzy
[18:05:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> yes but then wouldnt you call macos just darwin
[18:06:14] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> realistically os names are colloquial
[18:06:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> windows, duh, macos -> mac, gnu/linux -> linux
[18:06:40] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> what the name should be in that case is whatever people get and I think it all works fine as it is
[18:07:03] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> people tend to refer by the ecosystem (hence those names) than the exact technical name under the hood
[18:07:48] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> it's less appropriate to refer to linux by ecosystem but eh, that's the windows monopoly effect (windows = people think of os as an ecosystem, logic applies to mac as well, while linux in that respect is more complicated)
[18:09:31] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> yea i see