[01:06:19] [discord] Our friends at Yugipedia have seemingly accidentally deleted their entire site. [01:06:19] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1081744468467798137/2023-03-04_20-05-29.png [01:09:31] [discord] yikes [01:18:47] [discord] Uhhh. Hm. [01:25:20] [discord] *oh no* [01:26:55] [discord] db141 moment, but worse [01:28:53] [discord] i had a friend who once accidentally deleted the entirety of their website's code [01:28:56] [discord] thankfully they had a backup [01:29:06] [discord] but it led to the site being down for a few days while they were working on fixing it [01:29:13] [discord] things like that happen [04:33:29] [discord] they have backups? [04:49:29] [discord] Yeah that makes db141, seem like child's play in comparison xD [04:53:53] [discord] oh my [04:54:12] [discord] That's really awful, hopefully things work out eventually [05:37:48] [discord] … oh fudge. [06:13:26] [discord] using discord for 5 years and first getting "you are suspicious, confirm your activity" email [06:13:27] [discord] is it legit? [06:13:37] [discord] I'm just using VPN [06:14:50] [discord] go to https://support.discord.com and ask [06:14:50] [url] Security check | support.discord.com [06:14:59] [discord] VPN causes all kinds of issues [06:15:12] [discord] its impossible to sign up over tor or vpn without phone + email verification [06:15:35] [discord] i have to use protonmail and sms24.me to use discord "anonymously" [06:15:39] [discord] I've been using VPN daily for a year now [06:15:43] [discord] ah [06:16:01] [discord] cus shit country censorship [06:16:40] [discord] and privacy is much more valuable [06:17:16] [discord] yes [06:17:23] [discord] though tor is better for that purpose imo [06:17:35] [discord] read https://anonymousplanet.org [06:17:36] [url] The Hitchhiker’s Guide to Online Anonymity | The Hitchhiker’s Guide to Online Anonymity | anonymousplanet.org [06:17:41] [discord] vpn over tor is also possible for convenience [06:20:37] [discord] tor is a last resort for me, because is sadly slow and some VPNs are getting blocked hard [06:21:26] [discord] they can't block tor as a thing but some official tor sites and mirrors are blocked [06:27:24] [discord] thats a shame [06:28:13] [discord] i have the tor installation stuff on my device and i think that in general if you joined a community about tor online and said its blocked for you there would be someone willing to find the files for you [06:39:08] [discord] I have all prepared [06:43:13] [discord] kk [15:55:09] [discord] discord really doesnt like vpns, so i assume that if its from a @discord.com email, its legit [19:03:47] [discord] Epic v Apple was fun [19:03:55] [discord] For sure [19:04:03] [discord] Was interesting to see how it plays out [19:04:09] [discord] I'm not a fan of Apple [19:04:17] [discord] But I appreciate some parts of their store [19:04:23] [discord] Yeaaaaah. That's one where apple needs to lose, realistically. [19:04:27] [discord] “While Apple is not considered a monopoly and did not engage in antitrust behavior on nine of ten counts, Apple’s conduct in enforcing anti-steering restrictions is anticompetitive.” [19:04:31] [discord] @NotAracham ^ [19:05:25] [discord] Yep, more referring to their insane cut of any revenue generated on their store. [19:05:32] [discord] epic v apple is a squabble between evils that happened to work out somewhat for us [19:05:37] [discord] And their ironclad control over access to their userbase [19:06:38] [discord] RE: Android, I think what I was recalling from my tech support days was the MFG-specific android OS forks that were very crabby about doing anything they didn't already do out of box. [19:07:40] [discord] e.g. touchwiz, FireOS, a third one I can't think of [19:07:53] [discord] FireOS is a mess [19:08:01] [discord] I’ve broken our fire stick [19:08:18] [discord] It refuses to let me connect to another network without being on a network [19:08:35] [discord] A squabble is one way of putting it [19:08:54] [discord] The EU usb-c laws are my most disliked [19:09:07] [discord] i've gotten apps sideloaded on fireos [19:09:26] [discord] however i've been considering probably just flashing a different ROMon the device [19:09:29] [discord] I've got a Samsung (can't remember what OS they come with these days), and there's a simple check box that allows to you sideload. [19:09:32] [discord] The OS in general is crap [19:10:04] [discord] We're talking early 2010-era android [19:10:19] [discord] I haven't been following that stuff closely since, I just run stock pixel devices now [19:10:31] [discord] I'm 50/50 on it. USB-C is objectively superior and it will cut down on the amount of e-waste and cross-compatibility with products. [19:10:31] [discord] Negative is I don't think any government should dictate this sort of thing as it reduces competition and development. [19:10:37] [discord] i kinda want to get a pixel phone and get lineage os on it [19:10:47] [discord] or grapheneos [19:11:00] [discord] i meant graphene [19:11:21] [discord] USB-C isn’t the leader for charging, it stifles innovation [19:11:32] [discord] MagSafe is faster than USB-C [19:12:22] [discord] Faster sure, but doesn't transfer data for now [19:12:26] [discord] For now [19:12:41] [discord] Is it? What Wattage does that go to? I'm not a fan of wireless charging in general. Really inefficient and can wreck your battery over time (unless you're talking about the one on Macbook Pros) [19:12:47] [discord] Also there's a wee bit of problem with lots of cords w/ magnets [19:12:50] [discord] @NotAracham so what? Apple’s data transfer stuff is nearly [19:13:00] [discord] The wired version [19:13:04] [discord] I've found usb-c to be quite underwhelming [19:13:16] [discord] though the prevalence of usb-a things that I use might contribute to my impression [19:13:21] [discord] Wireless charging is meh [19:13:33] [discord] Because it’s still contact for now [19:13:35] [discord] I'll never tire of my phone going from 3% battery to 80% in like 15 mins or so. I really like it. [19:13:38] [discord] My concern is more about interoperability vs speed, USB-C is an everything-cable, for better or worse [19:13:56] [discord] True wireless will be fun [19:13:58] [discord] Only place I'd like it is in my car but couldn't as BMW didn't have the parts during the pandemic [19:14:04] [discord] my usb-c phones certainly do not go up quite that fast [19:14:06] [discord] wish they did [19:14:19] [discord] And yes true non-contact charging exists [19:14:25] [discord] then again I cheap out on them in the first place, but it's probably more the phone than anything that determines [19:14:58] [discord] There can be wild differences depending on how cheap you go... including minor fires for the extremely offbrand stuff [19:14:59] [discord] You need to have a charger that can do it and you normally need to enable 'superfast charging' in your phone settings. It's disabled by default to protect your battery due to heat [19:15:15] [discord] Phone and charger [19:15:35] [discord] You generally need decent tech for super fast charging [19:15:38] [discord] +1 on that, charger also makes a difference in how much power it can push. [19:15:49] [discord] I don't go quite that offbrand but I do slack heavily on the charger [19:15:56] [discord] as well as grade of phone in general [19:16:17] [discord] Anker's inexpensive but generally reasonable quality, I use mostly them for off-namebrand purchases [19:16:19] [discord] though by slack I don't mean piece of trash that literally catches on fire [19:16:31] [discord] I got a good one from Amazon. Tiny little thing and pushes out an obscene amount of power. [19:16:38] [discord] I also trust that they won't be pushing out garbage non-compliant devices [19:16:39] [discord] @raidarr I’ve never caused a fire yet [19:16:47] [discord] At least I’m fire safety trained [19:17:03] [discord] (This was a serious issue w/ early USB-C cables w/ none of the limiters required for the spec) [19:17:37] [discord] I may have accidentally sprayed the extinguisher at the firefighter setting fires for the training [19:20:42] [discord] I think the main issue with the USB-C rule is that it complicates things if a better version comes out [19:20:53] [discord] but at the same time I do think it's nice not having tons of different USB types for phones [19:21:01] [discord] though it does seem a little intrusive [19:21:11] [discord] Mainly yes [19:21:14] [discord] Tried to post a link, but it wouldn't let me. It's from a company called Minix. Been great. [19:21:18] [discord] I wonder if Apple will only use USB C in Europe or whether they'll do it everywhere [19:21:52] [discord] My bet is they'll get rid of a charger port all together and resort to wireless charging [19:21:55] [discord] Let us not return to this day: [19:21:56] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1082020186300895232/usb-OTS-banner2.png [19:22:01] [discord] I suspect everywhere [19:22:07] [discord] Lol yes, that's why part of me likes it! [19:22:19] [discord] (this isn't even all the variants that existed) [19:22:50] [discord] I do wonder what phones will look like 10 years from now [19:22:59] [discord] is auth still broke [19:23:00] [discord] If we look back at 2012 it was very different [19:23:13] [discord] Believe so [19:23:15] [discord] @Skat , gifs and links won't work for unauthenticated users, but auth is still broken for the moment [19:23:19] [discord] Yep. 😦 [19:23:23] [discord] Don’t make me feel old [19:23:31] [discord] I have encoutered most of these in the past couple weeks [19:23:36] [discord] nvm. It's not really important. [19:23:42] [discord] Just a bit of humour sadly [19:24:12] [discord] Phones do this again, at least: [19:24:13] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1082020760312348825/34122126-2-440-OVR-1.png [19:24:35] [discord] 1. a lot, 2. printers and stuff, 3. hanging around, 4. one hanging around, 5. used on multiple peripherals, 6. used as an extender so I can plug in my mic, 7. probably some of 1, 6. phones and laptop chargers, 8. a couple of my external things, 9. I think this is apple shit that stumbled into my cord box [19:25:04] [discord] I have one last cord box to purge, *finally* nearly free [19:25:11] [discord] The worst was having to type using the number keys! [19:25:19] [discord] if I'm not using it I probably have it laying around somewhere [19:25:23] [discord] (As in write letters) [19:25:41] [discord] Heh, I was familiar enough with the 'smart-type' on my flip that I could do that while walking around and not looking at the screen [19:25:41] [discord] but sadly I only get to ignore two of them entirely [19:25:50] [discord] That is absolutely not a skill that I retained. [19:26:03] [discord] I do wish battery life improves even more eventually [19:26:03] [discord] Our work handsets require you to type your username using number keys [19:26:16] [discord] Fun [19:26:20] [discord] Battery life is fairly good [19:26:40] [discord] Like my first phone lasted half an hour of anything usefuk [19:26:42] [discord] even now I still have the lovely video predicament: vga, dvi (of different types), the hdmi looking one that's missing a corner, the hdmi one and some analog stuff [19:26:53] [discord] Yeah definitely good but it can always be even better [19:26:54] [discord] thankfully most of the stuff is hdmi [19:27:05] [discord] We really need to move on to a successor to the current Li-Ion, but it's gonna be a minute on that effort. [19:27:14] [discord] Lots of solid competitors coming up in that area, though. [19:27:26] [discord] Yeah, definitely [19:27:41] [discord] We have https://www.techbuyer.com/uk/cisco-8851-charcoal-ip-phone-with-stand-and-headset-cp-8851-k9-176093?sku=CP-8851-K9-CISCO-REF&ppc_keyword=&utm_term=&utm_campaign=PMax:+Smart+Shopping&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=3544573508&hsa_cam=18127361247&hsa_grp=&hsa_ad=&hsa_src=x&hsa_tgt=&hsa_kw=&hsa_mt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAiAmJGgBhAZEiwA1JZoln4ZPKRD7V4xoNB4ompk-89zKPuG-GeMJzz3BRobRe80w [19:27:41] [url] Cisco 8851 Charcoal IP Phone With Stand and Headset | www.techbuyer.com [19:27:59] [discord] It’s got a login over Ethernet option [19:28:03] [discord] Ah, pretty standard [19:28:03] [discord] Ah, love a good voip phone. 🙃 [19:28:08] [discord] But that’s a bit dodgy [19:28:46] [discord] We had a near-identical model pre-pandemic. [19:29:06] [discord] I'm surprised landlines haven't died out yet. And somehow some people still have faxes [19:29:10] [discord] @NotAracham desk phones are still very useful [19:29:20] [discord] I really don't get the usefulness of the latter at all with email, it's really just not [19:29:22] [discord] They forced our salespeople over to 'virtual phones' [19:29:33] [discord] Landlines/office phones I can see to an extent [19:29:53] [discord] @NotAracham we have Cisco’s Jabber on our laptops [19:29:55] [discord] At least in the US offices, I think some of our overseas branches still have physical devices [19:30:06] [discord] Do you guys still use fax? 😄 [19:30:11] [discord] But phones are good with multiple people [19:30:20] [discord] Because the built in mic is blocked [19:30:23] [discord] When I see someone mention a fax number I think: are we still in 2005 here? [19:30:23] [discord] Only headset [19:31:11] [discord] We have physical printers on-site that do have fax capabilities, but I think it's that whole 'routing to virtual broker, then sending over a virtual number' thing, not a physical copperline [19:31:41] [discord] Yeah that's slightly different I think [19:31:50] [discord] We don’t have fax [19:31:57] [discord] Luckily [19:31:59] [discord] But that's another thing that's surprising that people are still printing a lot of unnecessary stuff [19:32:07] [discord] It's a habit hard to get rid of [19:32:14] [discord] The board loves their paper copies. 😅 [19:32:25] [discord] Heh yeah, exactly! Everyone loves paper copies still it seems [19:32:36] [discord] Oh we don’t print [19:32:40] [discord] We post CDs [19:33:26] [discord] Heh, I haven't seen a CD in a while either [19:33:44] [discord] Hahaha, there are some weird regulations for compliance w/ data handling certifications about posting storage media instead of sending over internet, VPN or no. [19:33:47] [discord] I think with USBs they sort of outlive their purpose a little too [19:33:49] [discord] CDs are our primary method of communication [19:34:07] [discord] USBs can’t be write locked as easy [19:34:18] [discord] Also another weird data compliance thing [19:34:26] [discord] Oh, I didn't realise. You'd think they'd be safer than CDs [19:34:53] [discord] I guess it's also easier to lose or misplace a USB [19:35:36] [discord] @Reception123 I do not want to count how many CDs I’ve used & shredded this year [19:35:55] [discord] It’s at least 50 since September [19:36:03] [discord] I absolutely hate the sparkly, prickly, shredded CD residue [19:36:19] [discord] Least favorite of the feelings. [19:36:25] [discord] Haha, I've had a USB that was setup to be write blocked and secured cause explorer to crash every time you attempted to access it. Not fun since the contents were at least somewhat time sensitive. [19:36:53] [discord] Not sure if it was the security settings or the password encryption that broke the damn thing [19:37:14] [discord] Someone unplugged it too fast while it was a full moon, that's my bet. [19:37:33] [discord] @NotAracham the moon alignment is a key part of using tech [19:38:07] [discord] That's unfortunate, the only CD shredder I ever worked with didn't leave any residue that I ever had to deal with. Might have been a different case for the person who had to clear the shredder bins though. [19:38:23] [discord] I mean I didn’t do the shredding [19:38:38] [discord] I signed the authority line on the certificate of destruction [19:38:48] [discord] It went in a pile to be shredded on masse [19:38:52] [discord] Even when I wear gloves, I still manage to get some mini-splinters. Thankfully this isn't something I really encounter any more. [19:39:02] [discord] This is probably time for me to ask a basic question which I've always wondered about. Does it really matter if you click "Eject" when ejecting USBs? It always feels like it's safer to do it but at the same time I haven't seen any evidence that not doing it damages it in any way? [19:39:20] [discord] @Reception123 99% of the time no [19:39:28] [discord] Especially if it’s not writing [19:39:31] [discord] If you have something writing to the USB, then yes [19:39:38] [discord] There's a lot more safe-failure with USBs, but if it's in the middle of a big write, then it can be very bad times. [19:39:40] [discord]