[17:22:07] hello [20:37:35] how is everyone? [20:37:51] when you use centrel auth on a self hosted wiki its pretty hard to make work [20:40:25] No you're just stupid [20:40:29] We established that [20:40:54] RhinosF1, please remember the Miraheze Spaces Code of Conduct :) [20:40:59] that's not acceptable [20:41:24] dmehus: see the last few days of #mediawiki [20:41:38] They had to be told for certain activites a minimum level of competence was required [20:41:46] And that they lacked it [20:41:55] They are close to being banned from #mediawiki [20:42:00] RhinosF1: that's fair, yes, but you didn't have to say it like that [20:42:30] Cocopuff2018: CentralAuth would be pointless on a single wiki [20:42:41] dmehus: I'm sure Cocopuff2018 knows what the intended meaning is [20:42:49] It's intended for wiki farms, or at least multiple wikis that work together [20:43:11] Cocopuff2018 doesn't have a single wiki [20:43:14] They want multiple [20:43:23] Oh, he only showed me one wiki [20:43:28] I did not see any others [20:43:41] i have multiple projects im working on [20:43:50] The conversations indicate multiple wikis are involved [20:44:57] yes, i have multiple (: not all connected tho [20:45:10] Cocopuff2018, if I'm being honest, I wouldn't even attempt to try and set up CentralAuth on a few wikis. It's not that simple [20:45:22] It really isn't [20:45:25] have you considered using a shared DB (like ShoutWiki) instead of CentralAuth? [20:45:40] Hypercane: yep, exactly, thanks :) [20:46:06] My setup also has $wgSharedDB [20:46:08] not even in my plans [20:46:59] my plans is to shut down the project as its getting too hard to maintain [20:47:28] Interesting plan [20:47:58] Cocopuff2018, MediaWiki is not the simplest wiki software, if I'm being honest. For a personal project, I probably would use something like BookStack or maybe WikiJS [20:48:19] or just go with something already set up, like Miraheze or Notion [20:48:37] we shall see, i enjoy doing mediawiki work [20:48:50] that's good :) [20:49:00] Ack, I forgot why I didn't want my username to be the same on Discord and IRC. [20:49:04] if nothing else, you are gaining knowledge and experience and that's that a good thing [20:49:08] pings [20:49:11] but all the time [20:49:15] Hypercane, lol [20:49:25] yeah what was your IRC name? [20:49:30] Ultra something [20:49:35] Ultracane1997 [20:49:43] ah, yes, that's it :) [20:49:44] dmehus: you have pm [20:49:56] RhinosF1, looking [20:50:35] hey dough, what you working on these days? [20:52:51] Mostly just working, for a wage. No pet projects, though lately I've been fascinated by static website frameworks, specifically, Hugo [20:53:18] nice [20:53:24] Hopefully this fixes thebe pinged all the time issue. [20:53:27] I will try and be more active on Miraheze again, though...just not *as active*, perhaps, as I used to be (circa 2020) [20:53:40] Yeah, I remember when you were very active. [20:53:42] Ultracane1997, yeah it should [20:53:49] do you have plans to come back as global syosp dough [20:53:51] I use `Doug` on Discord for that reason [20:54:09] that and `Doug` on Libera.Chat is taken [20:54:18] although I do have `Doug[m]` [20:54:24] interesting [20:54:36] hey dough remember when i use to have like 3 usernames? [20:54:37] on irc [20:54:54] Btw dmehus, I wanted to talk to you in pms about something. If you have time. [20:54:58] Cocopuff2018, who knows what the future will bring :) [20:55:22] Ultracan1997, okay, sure, sorry haven't replied to your last PMs yet [20:55:30] It's fine [20:55:34] :) [20:59:26] nice to see you back dough [20:59:34] (: [21:13:42] thanks, Cocopuff2018 :) [21:13:42] you too [21:14:08] so does your Moviepedia still exist on Miraheze? [21:54:35] yep dmehus but not doing well [21:54:59] eh i set it up for fun once [21:55:03] it was terrible [21:55:38] @Fiddlestix same reason i do it [21:56:32] the amount of times i went between terminal, mediawiki docs and irc was unbelievable [21:58:07] did you know how to config it all [21:58:32] depends [21:58:40] if setting it up, a little bit [21:58:52] if configuring a few things after setting it up, a little less [21:59:05] i dont know how to fix the errors [21:59:10] what errors? [22:00:12] [ZGvl4zT0OWVBYITPKZA8dAAAAA8] Exception caught: Could not open '/home/vol1000_8/epizy.com/epiz_34255819/tmp_yaeqjr/mw-GlobalIdGenerator34255819-UUID-128'. [22:00:55] idk how to fix it [22:01:03] oh boy [22:01:23] now if youre setting up any mw extension with infinity free youre already in for a bad time [22:01:35] why is that [22:01:48] no ssh access or anything [22:02:07] and i think there is an sql query limit on there too [22:02:35] infinityfree is a pain in the ass for anything tbh [22:02:47] did u ever use it? [22:02:51] yep [22:02:53] multiple times [22:03:21] tried installing checkuser, got stuck on the "run install.php" or whatever [22:05:08] it all worked for me if you wanna install checkuser run it on winscp [22:05:08] [1/7] Remember what the MW page says about CA: [22:05:08] [2/7] > CentralAuth was designed specifically for Wikimedia projects which already had millions of accounts that needed to be merged into a global table. [22:05:09] [3/7] > If you are starting a new wiki farm from scratch and have no need to merge existing accounts into a global table, it is much easier to set up global accounts using $wgSharedDB rather than using CentralAuth.[1][2] [22:05:09] [4/7] > [22:05:09] [5/7] > However, $wgSharedDB is only useful for preventing conflicts of username creations, and does not handle anything such as universal sign-on (instead, users are required to sign in to each wiki), or cross-cluster account rights and management. [22:05:09] [6/7] > [22:05:10] [7/7] > This extension provides said functionality at the cost of complexity. [22:05:29] just use shareddb [22:05:59] didnt know they had ftp enabled [22:07:08] how ya installed it all? [22:08:22] i mean first youre gonna have to install centralauth [22:08:33] wait [22:08:37] why do you need centralauth anyways [22:13:08] Good summary, Fiddlestix :) [22:13:49] not even trying to doweload it [22:18:20] me reference!?!? [22:32:09] lol [23:32:40] @Fiddlestix#9401, I meant your explanation to Cocopuff2018 on why CentralAuth is not ideal for small wikis [23:33:07] It was a good summary [23:37:01] dmehus, they might have meant WikiJS since that was an older name of theirs [23:39:06] Hypercane, oh, really? Are you sure? WikiJS was Bukkit's old username, but I was told that Fiddlestix is not Bukkit so I am confused [23:40:26] Fiddlestix is Bukkit; Fiddlesticks is not (it's CharlieFiddlesticks) [23:41:28] @Tali64#9984, ah, thanks! That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification! :) [23:53:13] Anyone know what happened to the old XML dump archives on archive.org (the one I have on my computer is from September 20, 2020)? They appear to be corrupted now (I've seen some pages on one wiki that appear to have imported fine from one of the dumps in the archive)