[00:07:55] Fandom denounced the Minecraft Wiki to the spam filters because Fandom want to block people from using the Minecraft wiki [00:39:55] that is so fucking petty [00:40:46] Fandom showing their true colors [00:58:24] i'm curious. do they count discord servers of wikis a community discussion as well? [01:09:46] Im scared to know [01:13:26] because if it's allowed i can see the bigger wikis maybe hosting their community talks on some other non-fandom controlled forum instead of fandom where i'm willing to bet they would be shut down [01:13:59] in fact looking at this i realized i dodged an entire tank shell by choosing miraheze instead [01:14:33] Tank shell? More like a nuke [01:14:47] yeah pretty much [01:15:12] i myself can't stand the 69420 ads always on display and i certainly wouldn't like to see more of them while editing [01:20:22] Agreed, 100%. [01:20:34] It's why I started the SlenderSeries wiki project. [01:21:27] I did research Into the Slenderverse/Slenderseries community using fandom, as It was the only source rather than just going through and watching all of them. [01:22:40] [1/2] also I just realized something [01:22:40] [2/2] they can't be bothered to proofread their official page OR they are so vehemently against the idea of redirecting users to the new wiki that they had to state the exact same clause twice in the same section [01:23:16] doubt it [01:23:42] so technically fandom still holds the final say over a fork by means of gatekeeping the fork template [01:23:50] yup [01:23:54] that's [01:24:03] a dumb move [01:24:06] [1/2] (Sorry to cut-off above) [01:24:06] [2/2] It was a pain In the ass. (excuse my french) When I worked my way up through relations In the community, I thought back to my research and saw what was happening to the wiki so I got an idea, I managed to reach out to different slenderseries creators so we could all work on an indie wiki. [01:24:18] ah sorry for cutting you off too [01:24:40] personally i noticed most of the mobile rhythm gaming wikis are on fandom and some of them lack certain information [01:25:16] No problem, you were just chattin. [01:25:25] [1/2] though i don't think i have the skills to recreate the exact pages i think i can try to make up for that with more information [01:25:25] [2/2] which was why i started mine [01:25:43] for example, the dynamix wiki was a pain to read [01:51:56] 😭 its real [02:09:45] i wonder, what would happen if i did a funny and did a little drop all tables on a mediawiki database <:EpicFaceMH:912930767972225095> [02:10:45] what's a drop all tables [02:11:35] basically [02:11:38] wipe the database [02:11:46] where [02:11:47] ya know [02:11:54] all pages and logs are stored [02:15:33] oh [02:17:09] it would be funni [02:20:05] the urge [02:21:44] just click enter [02:21:49] watch it all poof [02:23:10] <:Momiji_VisibleConcern:1137997649816076368> [02:24:32] should i do it [02:24:50] god no [02:24:57] counterpoint [02:25:01] it would be funny [02:50:12] I mean do whatever you want on your own private MW install... I don't see the point though [02:55:10] [1/2] The A.M.W.B is looking for new members and is a hub place made for world builders to hang out and share their worlds with like-minded people and ask for help or feedback [02:55:10] [2/2] and if you're interested in joining DM me [09:50:58] honestly, this is something I'd always propose to go w/ and wanted to add in my big migration guide (wip) [11:06:31] [1/2] I think so many communities are like that. [11:06:31] [2/2] Mine is also a hub for worldbuilders [11:36:22] but would fandom take that as evidence of community support, since it technically didn't happen on their site? [11:36:55] it would be nice if they did recognize that other community platforms exist for their wikis [11:52:40] it doesn't matter? they won't delete the wiki either way [11:53:45] they only pretend to care about >community< [11:54:26] like, take a look at Minecraft [11:54:33] they had huge discussion [11:54:51] and the outcome is same - they supress any mention of new wiki [12:49:57] true that [13:20:02] This will never cease to piss me off [13:43:18] Asked some fandom guys, apparently the link was abused filtered because of mass spamming [13:43:31] 1.5K times [13:43:53] yeah, adding it to abuse filter is still supression [13:44:11] Oh yeah there’s def better ways [13:44:43] These guys have an army of staff they could probably develop a way to “rate limit” how many times you can link to a site [14:23:37] the last one is too true [14:28:48] https://vxtwitter.com/AdvosArt/status/172241148989662844 [14:29:25] Apparently it’s supposed to be temporary [14:30:05] God I hate wiki politics [14:30:53] hmm I shall check one fandom wiki which kindly updated their PTW links to our new wiki ... [14:31:06] wonder if they do same shit w/ Mira [14:31:08] W [14:31:21] (in this case custom domains are the best win) [14:31:50] PTW has a custom domain? [14:32:13] no, that's why I wanna check [14:32:40] my newer wiki does tho, hopefully I'll finish the whole process next monday [14:32:57] i wonder right [14:33:06] since they are like "oh we are so community focused" [14:33:16] have they ever held public forums with the users before? [14:33:17] I suggested for fandom to add a sort of limit to how many times you can link to a wiki, one of the mods said they would bring it up at the round table with staff <:nomChocoStrawberry:938647184973365318> hopefully they’ll implement something similar to prevent spam while allowing links [14:33:41] They do have a roundtable meeting thing with Fandom Stars I hear [14:34:08] how many and who are invited though [14:37:56] I’m seeing 247 users in the fandom star group on the community wiki [14:38:01] https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Special:ListUsers [14:38:06] As for invited [14:38:15] https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Fandom_Stars [14:38:39] aren't these staff members? [14:41:24] No [14:42:41] i see. i'm guessing they are equivalent to partners on yt [14:42:52] not very hot on fandom stuff, so sorry if i get this wrong [14:42:59] [1/4] > Fandom Stars is the ultimate program designed to recognize and amplify Fandom's most prolific creators. Stars serve as ambassadors of the Fandom community and are able to experience one-of-a-kind opportunities only found on Fandom. Want access to exclusive events? Ready to enjoy star treatment, get early access to platform updates, or even connect with the media? Fandom Stars is th [14:42:59] [2/4] e program for you. [14:42:59] [3/4] As Fandom Stars, program participants are part of a community with creative and curious individuals who go the extra mile to help others and create new and fresh content and fan experiences. Among other things, Stars are leaders in Fandom's community and have a desire to provide groundbreaking content to wikis they contribute to. Their knowledge makes them excellent mentors who can p [14:43:00] [4/4] rovide resources and tips to fellow community members. [14:43:15] Basically [14:43:32] https://www.fandom.com/fandom-stars/ [14:46:13] Miraheze is not on abuse filter lets goooo [14:46:14] why hire and pay to people if we can get someone do same shit for free [14:46:56] while continue to hogging on ad revenue [14:47:14] and buy other companies [14:48:31] i'm going to be pessimistic and add a (yet) [14:49:54] Good to know we aren’t loathed among fandom staff [14:50:09] from my short time here i agree with that [14:50:43] I work on two wikis mainly, a Fandom and Miraheze, dual citizenship só yeah I also agree [14:50:55] from my short time in wiki.gg server, their staff are pretty chill too [14:51:19] if they mean individual wiki admins then lol [14:51:43] I've seen pro fandom people shitting on Mira in 2021, and in 2023 [14:52:04] It’s not fair to categorize them all as just pro fandom [14:52:11] There are pro fandom who like Miraheze [14:52:18] ever encountered tupka? [14:52:22] Nope [14:55:01] i'm new to wiki politics but based on what i know about online interactions you definitely will have the vocal minority aiming to be the highest tier of annoying no matter which camp you're from [14:55:34] and of course to oppose them there will always be that silent minority that actually are chill people [14:55:53] the problem is finding these chill people in the first place [14:59:12] Yeah [15:00:49] I hate wiki politics in general [15:01:05] They go against the whole civility and community collaboration spirt imo [15:02:06] it seems like the main beef happening w/ wiki.gg right is because of the fact that it's basically Gamepedia 2 and high level of collaboration w/ actual devs [15:07:12] [1/3] The reason Miraheze are not considered as criminals by Fandom is because: [15:07:12] [2/3] > "they don't need to be blocked since noboby links to them". [15:07:12] [3/3] That means the people at fandom think the people at Miraheze are not worth the effort. [15:07:46] [1/2] bump [15:07:46] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/615786602454581249/1169618216742555709 [15:08:04] V-V [15:08:42] Dang [15:09:20] that's sad to hear [15:09:43] but at the same time i'm kinda not surprised [15:09:46] Yes. I think they are annoyed that the bought Gamepedia and now they have Gamepedia 2 [23:56:10] [1/2] The entire 2019 joker movie [23:56:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795004449474478121/869233231088721940/Joker_2019.webm