[02:19:48] I'll help the first 20 people interested in how to earn $50k within 72hours and hours but you will reimburse me 10% of your dividend when you collect it. Note: only interested people should send a friend request or send me a dm!👇 ask me HOW ! [10:29:31] [1/3] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Routemap [10:29:31] [2/3] If you expect to spend any time with this template, double that and add 30 minutes to reading how to use it. [10:29:31] [3/3] Seriously, is it just me or MediaWiki has at least 4 Turing complete languages supported [14:39:54] while that's true it ain't helping those who merely browse the wikis [14:51:13] so, if i wanted to set up a private wiki but still have it be collaborative, what would be the best option? like, i havent looked much into this type of thing but i wanna know what elsse it out there aside from miraheze [14:51:55] ive heard about wikitide for example but that seems to outright disallow the subject of my wiki [14:52:34] and by collaborative i mean, i have exactly one other person willing to work on it rn and i dont think that will increase much (on purpose) [14:52:48] i dont feel like its suited to miraheze but im unsure [14:53:08] i can get into specifics as well [14:56:56] and also to clarify I'm talking about free options [18:07:47] 😭 i had my wiki channels nested in a diff server and the owner didnt give anyone speaking perms this entire time i just thought ppl were disinterested [18:29:00] I can speak to what is/isn't allowed on WT, if you want to confirm [18:32:42] [1/2] hey miraheze you need to step up your game smh. [18:32:42] [2/2] https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:TimmyQuivy/Fandom_Is_Not_Rendering_Links_to_Wiki.gg_-_Here's_Why [18:33:22] lmao [18:34:47] cOoRdInAtEd PuSh [18:35:22] wow [18:36:00] did you guys know they changed their policy on linking to a new wiki after forking [18:36:11] we be knew [18:36:25] mossbag vid is over 2m views now too [18:36:33] the muskification of fandom [18:36:46] 40k links ain't too shabby! [18:37:24] you'd think your growth wouldn't be strictly linear though [18:37:29] if this graph was real [18:38:10] I guess custom domain wiki links will the most stealthy lol [18:41:25] [1/2] i guess i misremembered tbh, but here's how i've described what im going for; [18:41:26] [2/2] > A general archive and wiki project covering several communities I've been involved with online, and their history. Including a comprehensive timeline of events and articles on significant and notable members of said communities. [18:41:58] idk my main concern was all the personal and sensitive info [18:44:20] also I'll be hinest, I never heard of fextralife till this august [18:44:43] someone brought it up under my tumblr post [18:48:02] I’m almost certain they only graphed *.miraheze.org links lmao, that or thats just the number of links they didnt remove. [18:49:51] i doubt they bothered to pull actual link data, just put numbers that fit their narrative into a spreadsheet and hit plot [19:09:20] [1/3] That's not explicitly against policy, but it is a situation in which content about community members should be written in a neutral/factual manner. Since it's intended as a private wiki the topic is less concerning, but if you planned to make it a public wiki we'd want to know a bit more about whether you've got other contributors lined up and any kind of [19:09:21] [2/3] local content/enforcement policy you've got in mind. [19:09:21] [3/3] Things talking about people on the internet tend towards weird and contentious, even when they're positive, w/o a guiding presence setting the tone. 😅 [19:11:00] I see [19:11:24] is twitter down for anyone? [19:11:51] unfortunately not [19:12:03] I think another concern was some of the subjects discussed [19:12:05] What is Twitter? /s [19:12:15] lol [19:12:35] My money's still on twitter/x collapsing before 2024 arrives, but they might just pull through another year. [19:12:38] it's blocked in russia so I have to use vpn to access, but now it refuses to load even w/ it [19:12:39] I kept the project on Google docs so far cause it's much less hassle [19:12:57] but it really doesn't work well lol [19:13:06] [1/2] Absolutely, if you're concerned you might fall under a topic ban, please feel free to give our content policy a perusal: [19:13:07] [2/2] https://meta.wikitide.org/wiki/Content_Policy [19:13:20] I dont think their one advertiser is gonna pay the bills 😂 [19:13:36] admittedly I skimmed it and I got stuck on the "personal use" bit because this project was always intended for personal use [19:13:39] and it's like [19:13:57] it won't really get much if any other contributions outside of my own so I'm not sure [19:14:16] Yeah, that's the part that's kinda hard to explain. Personal use in this context primarily means: no other purpose than whatever you might need that day, e.g. journal, shopping list, etc. [19:14:31] if it's in service of a larger project and has a clear focus in mind, that's fine. [19:15:09] oh I see [19:15:34] But also, not wanting to go too deep into anything that could be construed as WT promotion, just answering the Qs that have been posed. 🙂 [19:16:06] as you can see from this graph, Wiki.gg links are causing spam and therefore we are disabling them. get rekt [19:16:13] If they do sqeak through, it won't be for too many months. The creditors want what they're owed. [19:16:27] alright [19:16:52] amazing [19:18:19] [1/2] `This action is an attempt by unknown individuals to tap into Fandom's massive SEO capabilities to drive traffic off our platform onto another site.` [19:18:20] [2/2] I have never seen a company showing they have no bullshit to hide yet their main source of income just continues to bootlick them [19:18:42] how on earth did miraheze have links to it before it existed [19:18:48] the literal reason the Quick Answers tab was pushed was because it helps boost FANDOM's SEO [19:19:36] holy shit, nice catch [19:19:41] hang on I'm gonna do something [19:20:04] to be fair, it's flatlined [19:20:18] a la 0 [19:20:43] I dont know the history of Orain [19:20:48] But maybe? [19:21:48] Be weird if they were keeping track of Orain though [19:29:02] For those curious this is what miraheze’s ancestor looked like https://web.archive.org/web/20140721213132/https://meta.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page [19:30:04] also anyone noticed fandom started pushing silly updates like scared little ... [19:30:06] I feel unwell [19:30:16] I feel ill and it is my birthday tmorrorw [19:30:33] why? [19:30:40] I threw up lots of food and I hurt# [19:30:42] Lmao thanks (if I recall correctly) has been bundled in core for ages [19:31:08] they've been "testing" Thanks, a stable extension, for most of the year. [19:31:33] take something, a good black tea w/ sugar might help to ease it [19:32:02] what are they cooking [19:32:08] seems okay in concept but also sending an email to notify you've been thanked seems like overkill<:twisted_donut_cuddle:1174234368269635647> [19:32:19] couple of days ago it was some notifs, on reports I think [19:32:26] [1/2] I did do a big linking update on my wiki, linking the first time each proper noun is menioned on each page [19:32:26] [2/2] I also managed to unclaim over 325 pages on my wiki putting them into one big pool to be claimed again [19:35:57] What has FANDOM been up to of late? [19:37:08] finding more places to put ads [19:37:24] setting up the walled garden for their communities to enjoy [19:37:39] More ads? Really? [19:37:51] unbelievably, it sure feels like it [19:38:51] I do not understand HOW they could add even MORE ads [19:39:27] new skin! [19:40:28] Oh my.... word [19:41:17] Can I see a screenshot? I want to see how bad that really is [19:42:39] I was joiking [19:42:58] I see 2 there [19:43:02] three [19:43:09] plus literally 0 page content [19:43:26] and if you count the wikiabar (tm) as ad space that's another couple [19:43:33] FANDOM is just getting worse and worse [19:43:55] [1/4] I mean, that's the model in a nutshell: [19:43:55] [2/4] * Relentless SEO optimization (including forced consolidation of wikis) [19:43:55] [3/4] * Maximize ad revenue to the highest level tolerable by end-users [19:43:56] [4/4] * Build an anti-portability moat to limit wiki departures. [19:44:40] [19:45:04] Ewwwwww. [19:45:23] money [19:46:21] I am glad I convincened the FANDOM rep to delete my wiki [19:47:20] me soon hopefully [19:47:28] my wiki has like 0 contributors lol so [19:48:50] Unfortunately for myself, I would need to convince the people on the Fandom version of the Usagi Shima Wiki to move over to mine, which I highly doubt will happen [19:49:17] @owenrb I've had to formally raise a subject access request with TSB & FOS to get them to hand over call recordings [19:49:24] on fandom I mean, that's cause they all left in 2013 [19:49:28] wild [19:51:01] The new baby furbys are infiltrating finally [19:51:45] @valeofvoid I said that the wiki has no editors other then me and it has no vaule to others then me [19:52:06] noted [19:56:11] Also, how is FANDOM tyring to make a walled garden? [19:56:58] making their forking policy more restrictive so communities who want to fork cannot effectively communicate that on-wiki [19:57:49] (and likely causing users to spam links across the wiki since they cannot otherwise broadcast this) [19:57:57] yeah [20:04:53] … [20:04:57] What is this [20:05:09] How [20:06:49] muppet wiki [20:13:23] FANDOM's new skin is ugly as sin [20:20:22] wiki for a game i play recently migrated away from fandom and ppl just started vandalizing the fandom wiki it was a little funny [20:21:03] What do you dislike about FANDOM's new skin? I dislike that bar and all the ads [20:21:27] You say that as if fandom had any good skins in recent times [20:22:46] [1/2] I like Oasis tbh [20:22:46] [2/2] when it was tolerable [20:23:07] ofc Cosmos is by miles better, but I don't use it myself anymore [20:24:49] I kinda like Cosmos, even Oasis was okay [20:25:16] @gummiel Did you hate Oasis? [20:28:32] Oasis is decent but it's so ingrained to me as the fandom skin that it personally feel like it makes wiki layouts lack individuality [20:31:57] i'm pretty sure that was the whole goal of oasis [20:32:19] move away from a MySpace-esque customization friendly skin to a Facebook-esque standardized skin [20:34:57] Yucky standardisation >:( [20:35:14] mm yeah but it does simplify ad placements [20:35:22] so that's the bottom-line reason, no doubt [20:39:55] I based my wiiki's theme on Wikipeida [20:54:20] So, the skin is new Vector made to look as much like old vector as possable via CSS. And the templates are white and light grey [21:09:39] [1/2] i used the default vector for like 2 years now and only recently tried out customizing it ,which is currently exploded by the image issue [21:09:39] [2/2] i'd actually been testing out a new infobox style using portable infobox cuz i've been using the default wikipedia-looking one [22:03:05] Miraheze wikis during the outage: [22:03:45] I'm probably not done meming this until the outage is resolved [22:08:29] honestly my favorite wiki skins are vector and timeless [22:08:36] and uhhhhh fuck one more but i forgor it [22:08:40] the one that looks old [22:17:06] nostalgia skin has such a nice feel to it but i feel it would drive me crazy to actually use [22:20:47] Monobook maybe? [22:21:04] YES [22:21:08] MONOBOOK