[11:13:29] isn't funny that I can see ancient forum threads after xml import, but I can't access them on fandom itself now [11:15:38] [1/3] and it seems like the user who made the thread got locked on fandom [11:15:39] [2/3] now I'm puzzled on what should I do w/ this thing, because info seems to be valuable [11:15:39] [3/3] guess I'll rename it into his user subpage [19:01:55] [1/4] @theoneandonlylegroom been busy with other projects so yeah lacking yet the other projects do have a higher priority. I don't waste resources, all wiki projects are in progress. I don't host abandoned or inactive wikis. [19:01:56] [2/4] @superkirbylover perhaps if you had better perspective, you might gain an actual understanding instead of shooting your mouth off. Unlike most hosts, I don't operate on donations or ads instead I pay out of pocket. All the wikis hosted are my own and for deserving friends. Furthermore, lessons learned from fandom gamepedia Miraheze are applied to policy for the intent to build an actual [19:01:56] [3/4] mature community. [19:01:56] [4/4] To both of you: Obviously larger operations have the staff to play whack a mole, I don't. Many hosts have taken the sledgehammer approach to cyber criminals that repeatedly try to break in and are protected by governments refusing to prosecute. If you don't like being collateral damage, try pressuring your government. [19:02:45] [1/2] "Russians, try pressuring your government" [19:02:45] [2/2] uhhh [19:02:52] i feel like this won't end well [19:02:55] ah right, you blocked me back in june [19:02:58] lol. lmao even [19:03:06] why I'm not even surprised lmao [19:04:01] i don't need a better perspective to say i think banning an entire country from accessing your site and labeling them all as cyber attackers is very great [19:04:17] reeks of xenophobia [19:04:21] Sometimes people do need to learn the hard way [19:04:40] Keep smearing, see where that gets you [19:04:59] yeah man? [19:05:18] Enjoy life [19:06:22] i am, don't you worry [19:06:33] Many difficult life lessons ahead of you [19:06:45] yeah man? [19:07:28] btw what country will the court case be in? [19:07:42] new zealand //shot [19:07:51] all of this because i said labeling an entire country's citizens as cyber attackers is very weird and xenophobic [19:08:42] "try pressuring [[russia's]] government" to do what though? like genuinely. to do what [19:08:42] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/russia%27s [19:08:42]

[19:08:52] i forgor about that bit [19:08:53] crack down on the hackers presumably [19:09:34] i guess? but that's both an impossible task and not something that really needs resources diverted to right now. if anything divert resources into security [19:10:06] not to mention hackers are the least important issue going on in russia rn [19:11:14] Uh, was this my fualt [19:11:22] i don't think so, nah [19:11:28] even if it was nobody knew this would've happened [19:11:41] are you a russian hacker [19:11:43] @superkirbylover Maybe when you run your own website and have people wasting your server resources causing downtime, perhaps then you'll change your tune [19:11:50] i do run my own website <3 [19:12:01] No. [19:12:07] Good for you then [19:12:15] I cannot even hack myself. [19:12:46] the hack is coming from inside the computer [19:12:54] hacking at the end of the day is taking advantage of poor security in various systems [19:13:02] that's why the US no-fly list got leaked [19:14:16] not to say it's easy, but you just really have to know where to poke your head in at [19:14:47] No wonder why I got so confused [19:15:02] I had to get help working out my local IP [19:15:06] god sdfhjgsd [19:15:22] i've had an idle interest in hacking but more as someone just interested in the process [19:15:32] Hacking is not limited to hijacking a computer. It includes attempt to gain unauthorized access, crack password which can cause overall website downtime due to resources being hijacked for unauthorized use [19:15:52] Just never came up until I wanted to install something that needed an local IP [19:17:39] you are right that it's not limited to hijacking a computer, it can also be gaining unauthorized access to databases, but "crack password" is a bit of a buzzword. it means nothing really. "cracked software" means however making a paid product free of charge, which allows users to pirate said product [19:18:01] resources being hijacked won't cause the website to go down. ddosing will [19:18:24] |Now I wish I remmebered what my old gmail password was [19:18:41] i can't remember shit that's why i have it all in a notepad file shoved somewhere in my sd card lmao [19:18:52] I go though a lot of emails [19:19:05] i have too many accounts unfortunately [19:19:17] me as well. And I do know at lest not to reuse passwords [19:19:36] No "catname123" for PayPal, DevintArt and Tumblr [19:20:06] my 7 year old self using the same password for 10 years: [19:20:12] (it's not like that anymore) [19:20:42] I really did have "Molly123" as an very old Wikia/FANDOM password once. I changed that once I learned. [19:21:01] funny story, one of my friends used to have their password as abcd123 [19:21:03] I miss Molly. She was such a lovly cat, even if she did have three legs [19:21:08] and i knew this cause i had to sign in and upload something for him [19:21:20] and oddly enough this guy did NOT get password guessed for YEARS [19:21:25] Woah. [19:21:29] and he was pretty popular on the platform we were on too [19:21:49] disabled kitties are so fucking sweet man [19:23:22] She was an old cat with long fur. She died of old ages when I was a kid [19:23:34] [1/4] Repeated attempts to guess passwords is considered password cracking attempts [19:23:35] [2/4] These are considered brute force which wastes resources thus causing downtime of not loading websites [19:23:35] [3/4] miraheze was hit by massive traffic designed to cause downtime. This includes using massive reflection attack which is triggered by a small initial attack. [19:23:35] [4/4] All forms of ddos [19:24:01] [1/2] AWWWWW [19:24:01] [2/2] my grandmother's cat died when i was 19/20, she was a year older than me and she was so sweet 💔 i relate to you [19:24:06] The story is a bit sad how she lost her leg - it was trapped by a trap a human put out [19:24:15] oh my god that's horrible [19:24:49] I am sorry about your grandmother's cat [19:25:40] [1/3] that's just password guessing. this does not waste resources. if it did, people forgetting their passwords and trying to sign in multiple times would slow a website down (it does not) [19:25:41] [2/3] miraheze was offline because it was being ddosed, which overwhelmed the servers and caused them to pretty much shut down. this involves bot usage and etc. [19:25:41] [3/3] these are NOT all forms of ddosing [19:25:42] What sort of cat was your grandmother's cat? @superkirbylover [19:26:01] she was a manx!! she was black/white, mostly black with some white spots [19:26:13] i hesitate on calling her a tuxedo because of the fact she didn't look like she was wearing a suit lmao [19:26:21] she had white paws and a white tummy [19:26:26] and a white muzzle [19:26:28] Awwww such a sweat sounding cat [19:26:39] SHE WAS she was very shy but opened up a lot to me [19:26:46] an old lady that acted like a baby [19:27:05] My heart melts like choclate left out in the sun [19:27:27] Molly was a shy cat as well [19:27:31] awww [19:27:48] you're gonna laugh but. my grandmother's cat was fucking named kitty [19:27:53] she was named after another cat ALSO named kitty [19:27:56] _laughs._ [19:28:06] Well, "Kitty" is a good name for a cat [19:28:10] this is true [19:28:42] she was REALLY smart too, she knew how to open doors and shit [19:28:55] she would open the cupboards and hide under the sink [19:29:09] and when i left my door cracked she'd open the door to come say hi to me [19:29:41] Woah, smart Kitty [19:30:28] she was also very soft too. very much like a brand new plush [19:31:42] [1/2] There's a big difference between password guessing wiki accounts vs the actual server accounts. Latter done on automatic can become ddos. [19:31:42] [2/2] I provided 2 examples of ddos, not all. [19:31:47] _melts like a stick of better_ [19:33:12] Awwww. I feel soo warm and fuzzy now [19:33:53] [1/2] listen man i don't think you know what you're talking about. i may not be a tech expert but i have looked into this stuff out of a genuine interest. there is no difference between what you said here, both can be guessed automatically through bots but it doesn't cause a ddos. what does is sending the server an overwhelming amount of information that causes it [19:33:53] [2/2] to overheat and pretty much shut down [19:33:56] im glad :] [20:34:13] Say what you managed to research, my logs tell me otherwise [20:47:45] lmao what are you going on about