[05:45:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> there are now new categories of wikis?
[05:53:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to furina.siyanse> wdym
[05:54:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> this i mean
[05:54:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> like first they had that fandom stars thing for "contributing" users
[05:54:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> and now there's an A+ wiki? when was this even a thing
[05:54:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> no idea tbh, I left Fandom in 2021
[05:55:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> what is all this.
[05:55:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> it's just funny that not only it's a clear attempt at coping/pretending everything is alright, the wiki is getting vandalized more than before
[05:56:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> this sounds like some "certification" thing
[05:56:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> what the point of this thing lmao
[05:56:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> same, idgi either
[05:57:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> even their own article about it proves their point
[05:57:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> benefits of being A+ wiki: we help you brag about it on twitter and this page and you can brag about it on your wiki
[05:57:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> like
[05:57:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> what?
[06:08:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I would guess it does help a little w/ promotion on twitter, but again the reason has no sense for neither average fans not experienced wiki editors
[06:10:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> but logically speaking, if a wiki's admins already have those supposed "A+" certifications, more than likely that wiki is already a well-established wiki that needs not much further introduction
[06:11:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <furina.siyanse> after all, one of the three A+ certifications is commuity building
[21:02:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> I still struggle with infoboxes
[21:02:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> I have no idea why I'm not getting it
[21:03:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Like I make one, it doesn't work, I delete it, make another one, rinse and repeat
[21:17:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> And it's especially infuriating because I'm basically really to start transitioning stuff from the fandom wiki to they new wiki
[21:17:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> I guess I'll just do descriptions first
[21:20:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid, replying to foxstep_the_cat> how are you making infoboxes?
[21:20:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> if you copy them directly from fandom they won't work unless you enable the portableinfobox extension
[21:20:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> if they have any styling it'll be css
[21:47:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Ohh shoot just realized this is off topic
[21:47:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Oh well
[21:48:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat, replying to valeofvoid> I'm making them in the Infoboxbuilder extension
[21:48:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> And when I finish them and go to their page/use them, they don't appear
[21:48:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid, replying to foxstep_the_cat> wait so you did enable portableinfobox then
[21:49:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid, replying to foxstep_the_cat> are you using source
[21:49:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Not necessarily
[21:50:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Fandom fucked me over so hard I barely have any Idea on how to use source
[21:50:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> huh
[21:50:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> oh
[21:50:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> i highly reccommend learning it tbh its very useful
[21:50:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> but anyway
[21:50:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Ok !
[21:51:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> admittedly i also just dont know how to use infoboxes in visual editor
[21:51:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> I think that's it
[21:51:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Like, question
[21:52:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> When you go in to edit an infobox, do the values and stuff appear in there or do you have to type them in?
[21:52:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> In visual
[21:53:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> [1/8] cause in source its just like
[21:53:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> [2/8] ```
[21:53:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> [3/8] {{templatename
[21:53:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> [4/8] |value1 = etc
[21:53:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> [5/8] |value2 = etc
[21:53:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> [6/8] |value3 = etc
[21:53:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> [7/8] }}
[21:53:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> [8/8] ```
[21:53:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid, replying to foxstep_the_cat> you mean edit the template?
[21:53:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> actually i can check hold on
[21:53:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Yea
[21:54:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> they all appear
[21:54:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> but maybe thats cause this is already filled out
[21:54:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> hold on
[21:55:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> oh
[21:56:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> i think you need to enable the templatedata extension for this
[21:57:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateData
[22:01:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Ooh
[22:01:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> I'd still say using source is easier but also thats partly cause I have no idea how to use templatedata
[22:01:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Ah
[22:02:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Thx so much! I'll make the infobox and update you on how it is
[22:02:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> alright np
[22:02:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> also i think you can still add undocumented parameters anyway
[22:16:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat, replying to valeofvoid> [1/2] Ok, kewl
[22:16:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat, replying to valeofvoid> [2/2] Sooo this is what the page ended up looking like
[22:16:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> (yes I know the bg image is a pain but whehehjs)
[22:18:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid, replying to foxstep_the_cat> wait im confused
[22:18:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> its supposed to look like that, thats fine
[22:18:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> you just need to actually use it on a page
[22:19:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Ahh
[22:19:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Ok
[22:20:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat, replying to valeofvoid> welp
[22:22:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid, replying to foxstep_the_cat> as i thought
[22:23:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid> this is where you would use templatedata, i just dk how to do that
[22:27:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <beith> Hi, does anyone know a good fairly reliable/permanent image hosting site or resource?
[22:27:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <beith> My wiki is for a Minecraft server and people make art using maps in it frequently, and while there are some discord archives there's been times where old ones get deleted due to being on imgur etc.
[22:29:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <beith> Sometimes there's like 1-3 posted/made every day and while I'm looking for an alternative over just discord (weird compression and deletions overtime) or imgur I don't want to put it all on a wiki page since that's not what miraheze is for obviously. Figured with how many people here archive stuff etc some might be able to point me in a good direction.
[22:37:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> You could upload them to s3? If you only want to archive them
[22:37:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> (Obviously not free, though)
[22:42:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid, replying to foxstep_the_cat> oh its easy apparently
[23:14:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat, replying to valeofvoid> Ooh ok!
[23:14:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> What do i put in?
[23:19:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <valeofvoid, replying to foxstep_the_cat> well, the parameters
[23:24:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Ooh
[23:24:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat> Ok
[23:37:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <foxstep_the_cat, replying to valeofvoid> Ok, look, I REALLY hate to bother you again, but which setting are you supposed to put it in? (inline, block, custom?)