[06:21:26] [1/2] For the record, I just wanna say that doing the right thing for a community project sucks. [06:21:26] [2/2] Still worth it, but sucks. [06:42:22] wut [06:50:27] Sorry, venting due to RfC stuff reaching inappropriate personal channels. I'll expand on that when/if appropriate later. [06:55:54] https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485 [07:12:09] [1/2] In the spirit of different people perceiving things differently, here's a youtube video as penance? [07:12:09] [2/2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w1wwGcu0Dk [12:50:19] [1/2] tumblr spam bots are something [12:50:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1190637996937056266/IMG_20231230_154859.jpg?ex=65a2870b&is=6590120b&hm=d95cc4b949305387d00ab934b6fa023f11aaa068db0ada6be4b6ba34152e124a& [13:02:52] Tumblr moment [13:27:27] [1/2] Had a funny idea based on a fandom bot. Do y’all think it would be possible to use the bandwagon to make a bot that analyzes edits using AI to rate likelihood of an edit being vandalism and notifying moderators or whatever the wikis CVT/SOAP equivalent is based on a threshold [13:27:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1190647339753418793/image0.jpg?ex=65a28fbe&is=65901abe&hm=d2a09e7d387f1fe34b5fda2620e4c238db0daa1f40693a62bbaca9bf8eaa2d0c& [14:08:14] I found a paper from the University of Antwerp in Belgium from around 2008 titled Automatic Vandalism Detection in Wikipedia: Towards a Machine Learning Approach [14:08:17] Some light reading [14:09:59] Wikipedia’s ClueBot May be a good reference point [14:21:00] you mean, they already use AI for that? [14:21:31] a bit confused [15:00:09] Yes [15:00:27] It's perfectly possible [16:07:31] [[w:User:ClueBot NS]] [16:07:31] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ClueBot_NS [16:07:32]

[16:08:01] From what I understand They have a model based on Wikipedia contributions marked as vandal or constructive [16:22:42] Was NG mb [16:22:59] [[w:User:ClueBot NG]] [16:22:59] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ClueBot_NG [16:23:00]

[16:23:17] The guy who made the fandom got actually explained a bit how his works so that’s based [16:23:46] https://soap.fandom.com/wiki/SOAP_Wiki:Cynthia [17:40:19] [1/2] "miraheze/wikipedia are begging for money, but we have DoNaTiOnS" [17:40:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1190710976731938886/IMG_20231230_203928.jpg?ex=65a2cb03&is=65905603&hm=90dc90c2281c3af9281dd13b0355930b383d3808f59e7c760c233b6806e311ec& [17:40:23] I just [17:41:49] what [17:42:33] Is this a new hosting service? [17:43:10] I have no idea [17:43:25] I can't even remember how I stumbled on it [17:43:40] If it is, there will be at least one person who tries to start a reception wiki there, I can guarantee that [17:43:57] I sometimes surf twi search for wiki news(?) [17:44:33] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1190712042827554948/IMG_20231230_204421.jpg?ex=65a2cc01&is=65905701&hm=fe4c7102b2d6f1414a6279cfb716dbe9a313573903b4b46f78eda17c166ca4a4& [17:44:47] seeking investors [17:44:48] There are already like 50 different companies and websites with the WeWrite name so I can't find them just by searching [17:45:49] [1/2] using the word "wiki" in such context was their first mistake [17:45:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1190712359728193618/IMG_20231230_204526.jpg?ex=65a2cc4c&is=6590574c&hm=ebc2f1fd83e8c7a42f2e0ffd5d630182c708c2c1469dc9a664d7fd7d612351b5& [17:46:08] they aren't a "wiki", and neither is google docs lil [17:46:32] <:Thonks:641877255324434432> [17:46:34] Weird [17:51:02] [1/3] trying to understand what the purpose of it is [17:51:03] [2/3] i think theyve gotten less than $100 donated in a year [17:51:03] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1190713675477164104/image0.jpg?ex=65a2cd86&is=65905886&hm=9ea876513c558711be585df487aea96cfa2b80972a2db4a64cb7470551243528& [17:51:42] gitbook... 2! [17:52:37] I audibly cackled at their bio [17:53:34] well the $93 i saw on the first page keeps fluctuating up to $200 some so i have no idea whats going on there. awesome [17:53:39] money plan: create a page called 69 and get people to get it 69dollars/month in donations [17:56:38] let's see if they'll block me [17:57:07] [1/2] oh yeah ok i get it [17:57:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1190715204728795196/image0.jpg?ex=65a2cef3&is=659059f3&hm=83f4c1289bd45dafd308b6f6c23dd405b183ec124341e625586ffdf039d85d70& [17:57:36] is this fandom? [17:57:42] guy wrote a whole blog post "improving wikipedia's information architecture" that was just a sticky scrollable table of contents [17:59:10] and later they found out wikipedia actually did implement their own but it was "glitchy" and "not smooth scrolling" [17:59:25] [1/2] this sounds awful [17:59:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1190715782171209738/image0.jpg?ex=65a2cf7c&is=65905a7c&hm=8cd639d03d4957f120d0b10028090475f89a93d941eda1fe4749efd103a0fed6& [17:59:43] but it sure was fun looking through this and getting a laugh out of it [17:59:46] is he talking about vector 2022 toc? [18:00:02] [18:00:56] plz donate [18:01:17] [1/2] OK THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THEM LOL [18:01:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1190716254898634802/image0.jpg?ex=65a2cfed&is=65905aed&hm=2de2cf3c9429809956047ccc0aa5f1bdb9419900d575ad7368f204aa75c87c44& [18:01:31] god this woke me up 😂 thanks bro was getting eepy, the cringe slapped me awake [18:02:02] 💀 [18:03:43] wheeze meme [18:03:47] I am absolutely shocked. Shooketh. Shaken to my core. Never, NEVER in my thousand of eons on this earth have I witnessed such a thing, never have I thought it possible [18:03:56] They don’t mention NFTa! [18:04:13] they like crypto soooo [18:04:28] also probably cause NFTs kinda died out [18:04:31] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1190717067142369321/image.gif?ex=65a2d0af&is=65905baf&hm=8df7c514dc2eb4d1f3cc0dbfbb8fef2ce67114dd7f695ed4cc98b1e75a292fc2& [18:08:30] [1/2] jamie did you go to college or was your major just not related to anything tech [18:08:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1190718070289858621/image0.jpg?ex=65a2d19e&is=65905c9e&hm=4cc94f413df8844f511efa083bd7581e81f232024fd06aea25727815c714cf32& [18:09:14] i dont want to sign into linkedin to see his full profile but i dont see any schools on his website or google drive resume pdf. not that you need a degree to do well in a career but it certainly helps [18:16:18] WeWrite guys? [18:18:26] Funny you mention Udemy I legit just got an ad for them on YT [18:18:35] been getting for a while [18:18:41] cause I watch tech videos [18:20:11] [1/2] well, my major was about metal works <:EpicFaceMH:912930767972225095> [18:20:11] [2/2] (no, I forgot most of it) [18:20:44] yep theyre the guy who split off from whatever previous wikimedia project to make whatever this thing is [18:21:07] thats cool i just studied arts and tech like a CHUMP [18:30:33] Wait, this is super familiar to me, I remember some massive saltiness about this project... [18:31:57] oh? [18:32:09] Trying to dig it up now... [18:35:15] lmao [18:36:25] 👀 [18:41:01] can someone explain what "not a very charitable reading" means, asking as non native English speaker lol [18:43:25] i think "not very charitable" means the statement is very literal or they mean exactly whats said [18:44:22] Hm. I’d assume it means an unpleasant experience? (Im not a native speaker per say but its my main language and I speak it at a native level) [18:45:02] I think he's trying some mental gymnastics [18:48:52] it might also mean "nicest interpretation of something"? or "putting it lightly" so you dont sound as harsh or mean [18:51:37] [1/2] statement: "fandom is the worst website ever created" [18:51:37] [2/2] charitable reading: "oh so its a little difficult to use" [18:53:23] could be [18:54:41] oli love how unstable twitter app has become [18:55:03] it's can crash for no reason 3 times in a row [18:59:48] discord [19:01:40] surprisingly, I can't remember the last time it happened for me [19:02:07] I remember some JS(?) gibberish appearing once, making me to reboot lol [19:02:21] but twitter rn is a champion at this hands down [19:02:38] worse only vpn apps giving up on connection [19:07:42] A model I servely underestimated the complexity of… Oh boy [19:08:09] I see why the page said to directly ask a developer for help if you wanna self host [19:08:22] siqodjfnwjxjjejqjd its fiiiine [19:16:42] [1/2] "charitable reading" in my view: Assuming the best possible interpretation or intention of something or some action [19:16:42] [2/2] "not a charitable reading" in my view: Assuming the worst, using the most negative framing of intention or interpretation possible [19:18:12] I’d agree with this [19:18:13] Mostly used in situations where the subject being discussed is ambiguous or a bit dodgy/sketchy, depending on your local lingo [19:20:00] well, how I'm supposed to see "begging for money" placed next to "our righteous donations" positively lmao [19:20:25] Delusion [19:20:43] Maybe a healthy smattering of hard drugs would help out as well [19:22:44] [1/2] Heh. Yeah, that's about where I'd place that on the scale. [19:22:45] [2/2] You need a certain amount of delusion and/or unfounded optimism to launch a new software product, but uh... [19:27:20] [1/2] Oh weird, I get what they think their business model is now: [19:27:21] [2/2] People write pages, the pages have individual links for folks to donate to the page author, wewrite gets a cut of any donations as a facilitator. [19:28:22] So... Second life's model, basically, but all text. [19:32:14] Second Life? [19:32:51] [1/2] aaaand the dev for the core hasn’t made an edit on Wikipedia for a decade. [19:32:52] [2/2] Guess we doing it the hard way [19:33:38] the online game? [19:33:42] or wait [19:33:46] uh [19:34:11] I hear second life I think that one minecraft lets play [19:34:17] Well that’s third life [19:37:13] what about half life man [19:38:34] one and a half life [19:39:48] Old mmo kinda-game where the big thing was user generated content. Content authors could charge for access to their creations, e.g. a nice coat for character avatars [19:40:31] It's still in operation, I guess [19:40:31] I thought right then [19:40:46] I was eyeing to try it but forgot [19:41:07] the stuff I saw looked sick